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Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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It seems the Internet Archive itself may be in need of archiving... in a far more distributed manner.

as long as they don’t open the archive to the public via the internet they should be ok :)

You'd think, but there are stories rattling around in my head where people have been required to destroy all copies that they themselves possess - IA really does need to have a distributed version of their whole library that is impossible to erase, like pictures of Barbara Streisand's house.

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Full list of the plaintiffs, so that they can be appropriately awarded next time one is shopping for music. UMG Recordings, Inc. - Capitol Records, LLC - Concord Bicycle Assets, LLC - CMGI Recorded Music Assets, LLC - Sony Music Entertainment - Arista Music

Ooooof, at least in the genres I tend to listen to, SME (and numerous sublabels thereof) are basically impossible to avoid. I can take advantage of how low streaming payouts are, I guess? It's almost like refusing to buy their stuff.

The big record label's negotiated their own streaming payouts, which is largely why the payout rate is now so low for everyone else.

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Full list of the plaintiffs, so that they can be appropriately awarded next time one is shopping for music. UMG Recordings, Inc. - Capitol Records, LLC - Concord Bicycle Assets, LLC - CMGI Recorded Music Assets, LLC - Sony Music Entertainment - Arista Music

Everyone who is working for these companies should be ashamed of their choice.

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Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Copyright law is incompatible with preservation of cultural artefacts.

no it’s not. you just need to preserve it privately not publicly.

Preservation done privately is a fool's errand. You'll have tiny bits of culture scattered across many owners, none of which will share what they have, not an actual archive that's useful to anyone.

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Full list of the plaintiffs, so that they can be appropriately awarded next time one is shopping for music. UMG Recordings, Inc. - Capitol Records, LLC - Concord Bicycle Assets, LLC - CMGI Recorded Music Assets, LLC - Sony Music Entertainment - Arista Music

There's only a few music companies in the world. Either you avoid all of them or none of them.

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article and the wording it seems that the distribution of the music is the biggest issue in this case. I don't think the Internet Archive would be in trouble if they archived it offline and then published it after the copyright term expired.

Distribution helps to preserve cultural artifacts. It's more likely for them to survive if they are backed up in different places. History has proven that copyright holders prefer cultural works to be lost than distributed without payment. Most of early movies have been lost. Tons of music has been lost. Many old video games are only available illegally. We now have technology to archive and distribute cultural artif…

Look up events like the Bronze Age collapse, where a handful people disappeared and took a whole civilization with them. If knowledge and access is more distributed we can avoid similar loss in the future

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

no it’s not. you just need to preserve it privately not publicly.

so, what's your opinion on public libraries?

no opinion. they have what is commonly referred to as “library privilege”.

Re: Sony and other music labels sue Internet Archive for digitizing old records

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

no it’s not. you just need to preserve it privately not publicly.

Preservation done privately is a fool's errand. You'll have tiny bits of culture scattered across many owners, none of which will share what they have, not an actual archive that's useful to anyone.

the internet archive operating in private instead of public solves your problem, no?
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