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Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube. Even if I believed a for-profit model were appropriate for the largest repository of the world's video content, I wouldn't want AlphaGoogle to be the company implementing that model.

So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? I actually think this is irrational, because reason google is forcing thru anti-consumer features is _because_ they can't get enough revenue out of youtube!

I'm not against paying premium personally but the pricing is INSANE, it's probably 10x higher than what they would get with ads per user.

I'm skeptical they even consider YouTube premium a real option internally or if it's just there for potential regulators.

I also don't like the trend to blame adblock, Google is losing money now because there's an advertising scandal where they lied to customers, that's not adblocks fault.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

#43
post #30

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

> and support the folks I watch? YouTube takes a 45% cut. So out of that $30, YouTube pays a few cents for bandwidth, and takes $13.50 thanks to its dominant market position. I'd much rather watch with AdBlock and donate via Gumroad or Patreon.

Care to show your math on how you arrived at that few cents in bandwidth?

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

#44

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

The problem with YT premium is that I often browse in Incognito for enhanced privacy and YouTube premium doesn’t work in incognito. So I would still be seeing ads half of the time, if I didn’t use an adblocker.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

#48
post #10

Youtube also lies regularly about the current quality. I often see 1080p (Auto) or 720p (Auto) which it selects by default. But when I reselect it manually, because it’s clear that it’s not, it suddenly starts rebuffering. Happens all the time.

They have also started rolling out "Premium HD (1080p)" as an additional quality level for paying users. I can't tell a difference to regular 1080p (for now), though.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

#49
post #6

Yeah, still not budging. They keep shoving multiple obnoxious ads every few minutes in the video. It is the same as the predatory monetization approach in the (mobile) gaming industry where authors makes the original product so awful deliberately only so they can shove subscription down your throat. Basically selling you solution for a problem they created. Screw that mentality, not paying them. And I don't mind payi…

I don’t want to give Google my credit card, because in case of any problem/litigation, they can take away my Gmail. They’ve painted themselves in a corner with routinely deleting accounts for political reasons.

How about stopping using Gmail then?

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

#50

I don’t know if it’s the same in the other ‘developed but not America’ economies but Youtube premium is really expensive in Australia. It’s literally double the price of a Netflix subscription and represents way less ‘value’ for me. Part of that could be the bundled music subscription, which has zero value for me when I use and prefer Spotify, but it just seems like a very expensive niche product here which makes me…

There's exactly that, it's called YouTube premium lite. But apparently it's only available in a few countries.
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