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Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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PC is overkill for this case. A raspberry pi would get the job done while saving energy and equipment costs.

A raspberry pi certainly fits the definition of a "Personal Computer".

The whole "Mac versus PC" thing somewhat solidified the notion that PC refers to x86. Raspberry Pi uses ARM.

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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Unrestrained webservers on phones is an edge case that would certainly be abused by all sorts of crapware while being a very uncommon usecase for mobile devices at all.

I'm assuming the best intentions from you but I'd like to point out two things: 1. When discussing human rights (which apply to technological freedoms) reducing a need to "an edge case" is the basis of marginalization, defined as "treatment of a person, group, or concept as insignificant or peripheral". Therefore, it is never appropriate to rely on such language to prove a point, especially when we are discussing sof…

> When discussing human rights

I've never heard an argument before that the ability to host a personal website on a cellphone is a human right. But, by using this phrase, you seem to be assuming your readers already agree with you that human rights is what we are discussing. As a rhetorical device, that may be effective at getting someone to back down for fear of being labeled as anti-human-rights, but it is not effective at persuading someone of your implied thesis. I'd very much like to hear such an argument connecting cellphone websites to human rights.

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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Hear me out… after reading the comments and seeing the multitude of innumerable issues with this idea despite its impetus as a solution to obvious societal problems, here is one possible way to approach solving the problem… given the scale, scope and complexity of the issue/s this is in no way a complete nor exhaustive plausible solution…

Rather than the phone hosting the website, the service hosting the backup of the phone should act as the webserver. Would solve uptime, and security. To solve the webhosting hostage situation will require an act of congress to make phone providers and manufacturers liable for loss of data for the phones complete with fixed rates for hosting. The act should also stipulate that webhosting with open standard api and servers is an absolute non-negotiable necessity subject to substantial penalties for failure to comply…. Seems harsh but it would cause an open market of third party sites to provide for the offloading / hosting / storage responsibilities while usurping the walled garden strangled hold. In addition would open up a huge search industry where the ticktock/ instagrams of the worlds are reduced to search algorithms rather than divine dictatorships.

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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With respect to the idea of hosting personal websites without using hosting companies, why does it have to be port 80. Port 80 is what commercial hosting uses, but this proposal is fundamentally different from commercial hosting. I'm not sure I understand why using an agreed-upon high port would not be an acceptable alternative. As for non-rooted Android not allowing use of port 80, this is just one symptom of the la…

I saw some statistics showing that the majority of people in the US don't even have broadband (speed) internet, let alone a second computer. Here's an uncomfortable thought: The modern day personal website is someone's tiktok profile page. And it's thanks to the fact that everyone has a phone, and tiktok just works. There's an opportunity to learn from this model, though I'm not sure what the lesson is.

I don't think you saw those statistics in the last decade.

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/internet-bro...

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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Probably terrible data point, but running "nc -l -p 80" within the iSH shell app on iOS opens port 80 and is reachable from a desktop machine in the local network. iSH has requested the "Local network" permission at some point.

That's interesting, thanks for the information! Refreshing to see Apple provide to be the less restrictive app platform!

Even if you run the server, it will die if the app goes to background or the screen turns off. Hardly practical. Just because a port is open does not mean it’s “less restrictive”.

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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What if your service provider cuts you off?

I change the provider? Are you arguing I'm not allowed to host because a service can cut me off, so I need to open myself to more services that can cut me off?

right, just like you can change the provider of your hosting.

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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Even if you want to run a website on your phone (seems pointless…) Wouldn’t you need some kind of ngrok service to allow it to be accessible from the wider internet? In which case you could use whatever port you want and forward.

But then you’re kinda using a host aren’t you… and you may as well just cache it…

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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Hot take: Android is not an operating system. Go install AOSP and see how useless your device becomes. An OS is more than a kernel and filesystem, it's also a basic set of userspace utilities and functionality. Last time I installed AOSP on a device- wifi wasn't even supported. And Google is removing messaging from AOSP. Phone OS my ass, it's useless without 3rd party cruft that isn't available to end users.

For the longest time (maybe still but I'm out of that loop), installing Windows from a DVD left you without wifi, too; was it not an operating system?

The drivers could be acquired and installed either via CD with the hardware or found on the web. Where are my provided wifi or cellular drivers for my phone?

Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites

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“Give it a rest already. Maybe we just want to live our lives and use software that works , not get wrapped up in your stupid nerd turf wars.” — https://xkcd.com/743/ >

The lesson is open source needs to produce more accessible, usable software instead playing Cassandra

But if you have usable software how you're gonna ask for consulting and maintenance contracts? /s
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