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Every phone should be able to run personal websites
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Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unrestrained webservers on phones is an edge case that would certainly be abused by all sorts of crapware while being a very uncommon usecase for mobile devices at all.
So? That's up to the user to decide.
Sure, if the user can build their own phone.
Otherwise they're competing with a lot of other people interested in what the phone should and should not do.
If they own a hammer, they can do what they like with a hammer, but a phone is not a hammer. It's a complex arrangement of molecules, licenses and competing group interests.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#113I would much rather have a locked down phone which is secure, as I rely on it for many important functions in my life. I’ll leave the cheap web servers to a Raspberry Pi, CDN, or VPS thank you very much.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
You still can on modern phones: https://wiki.termux.com/wiki/Termux-services You'll have to use port 8080 or some other high port number because of privileged ports, but for just temporarily sharing your camera roll that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Yup, I love Termux. It's what makes my Android phone useful as a tool.
really? my phone is useful as a tool to: communicate with friends and family, do work via writing, reading, checking metrics, watching videos, and 10000 other things.
and i live in vim on a computer. this tech-centric “i need a terminal and full access to the shell for it to have any worth” is pretty juvenile. phones are real tools for millions of people— the greatest technological innovation of the century.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
My blog has been on the front page of Hacker News a couple of times with GitHub Pages. It didn't break a sweat.
That's because you're using Microsoft's infrastructure for your site.
Sorry, I was saying that because I thought the poster was saying "you'll need a real host (instead of a free one) if you get more than 1k visits a day". But looking back, I think "real host" meant "not a phone" and not "not a free host". So my comment here didn't really make much sense.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#116Just what we'd need - a new security attack vector :rolleyes emoji:
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it? I installed https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phlox.simp... , and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxdebug.a... (the first two apps I found) and had a http server with custom html in all of about 5 minutes.
None of them can run server on port 80/443
Your mobile internet is behind NAT and your WiFI router would need port redir to point external traffic to the phone inside the LAN anyway.
So even if you can run it at port 80 you can't really do that without NAT or tunnel somewhere and if you need that you can just NAT to get it visible on 80 from the outside
It's mostly imaginary problem
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody is saying that everyone should host websites on your phone. The author is saying you should be able to, if you so choose. Android and iOS put restrictions on what applications on a phone are able to do, often for arbitrary reasons. You can't hack a web server in your closet to run on port 80 without jailbreaking your phone/unlocking the bootloader and rooting your phone, and I can't really think of a reason wh…
I chose to purchase a phone that can’t do this. I’m fine with that. I’d rather my phone be how it is. I don’t need some nerd fighting for me in some imagined battle. I am incredibly sick of this line of reasoning. Anyone who spends any time arguing this point quite clearly has too much time on their hands and no real problems. It’s utterly cringey. Leave me be.
What are you gaining by entering this fight? Step aside.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#119Unlocking the smartphone will be a singular event in computing history. Running a personal website is a metaphor for actually using the device fully and with agency. It cannot not happen. The drivers are the ever increasing commoditisation of quality hardware, the slow but steady maturity of open source software and the fact that it takes machination at planetary scale to prevent it from happening (ie keeping these e…
Uh, you know phones can be rooted since the smartphone revolution, right ?
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#120> The reason I think this is needed is because a large percent of Internet users cannot afford hosting personal websites
What? You can host a personal website for free. People are just not interested in it