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Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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This really scares me. The wayback machine is a treasure. I don't know what will happen to it if these cases succeed.

Imagine a mixture of 1984: Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

On the specifics of the lawsuit.. well if the law us bad, then change the law. But not following the law is not nice.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

#33
post #5

What is the best way to let these greedy bastards know that we disagree with their conduct? Not buying records will only lead to them wrongfully claiming that they "lost revenue due to piracy".

Build AI music tools. Make it easy for the next generation of artists and create a Cambrian explosion of new music to wash out the old, copyright encumbered works.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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post #22
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy. If they spent it on providing a no-bullshit, reasonably priced platform that provides access to their whole catalog, then they would be making a lot more money than they would from lawsuits, and piracy would be virtually non-existent.

Most people pirate to get stuff for free. If everything was cheaply, easily available, piracy would exist at similar numbers. Now, I do agree that “one pirate number doesn’t necessarily equate to one lost sale”. But that’s not what you’re arguing. Pirates have been saying this for decades, and yet despite content being easier than ever, with pricing falling faster than ever (non-streaming services), piracy is as heal…

I do think a lot of people stream music who would otherwise pirate in various ways. But I don't really disagree with your basic argument. There's a never-ending stream of rationales for not paying for things.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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post #22
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy. If they spent it on providing a no-bullshit, reasonably priced platform that provides access to their whole catalog, then they would be making a lot more money than they would from lawsuits, and piracy would be virtually non-existent.

Most people pirate to get stuff for free. If everything was cheaply, easily available, piracy would exist at similar numbers. Now, I do agree that “one pirate number doesn’t necessarily equate to one lost sale”. But that’s not what you’re arguing. Pirates have been saying this for decades, and yet despite content being easier than ever, with pricing falling faster than ever (non-streaming services), piracy is as heal…

Music piracy is almost non-existent post spotify. Streaming service fragmentation and geolocking has resulted in more video piracy but it still is less compared to what it was.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

#37
post #5

What is the best way to let these greedy bastards know that we disagree with their conduct? Not buying records will only lead to them wrongfully claiming that they "lost revenue due to piracy".

Ransomware with no key provided from a jurisdiction that won’t extradite if discussing threat modeling around generic org weaknesses. Everyone is vulnerable to a sufficiently resourced attack, one simply needs to understand their adversary’s defense budget (incident response arrangement, cyber insurance limits) and attack surface.

Educational purposes only, not legal advice, don’t do this.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

#38
post #15

> The complaint states that when the 78rpm records were converted into digital files, IA reproduced copyrighted recordings without permission. When IA copied those files to a server, that amounted to another unauthorized reproduction Am I wrong to interpret this as trying to outlaw ripping a CD and uploading to a personal NAS? There’s additional claims about distribution to the public that (may??) seem more reasonabl…

Courts have ruled that merely executing an exe file is itself an act of copyright infringment, because the OS copies the contents into RAM. That's how deep it goes. The reason no users are violating copyright when running software normally is because of a special exception for software in the Copyright Act.

I think a lot of that has since gone away.

I remember the battles around '2000 when the record industry tried to get paid for each instance when parts of the music files were buffered (because they were "copies"). They weren't laughed out of court. These days I think they would.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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> The complaint states that when the 78rpm records were converted into digital files, IA reproduced copyrighted recordings without permission. When IA copied those files to a server, that amounted to another unauthorized reproduction Am I wrong to interpret this as trying to outlaw ripping a CD and uploading to a personal NAS? There’s additional claims about distribution to the public that (may??) seem more reasonabl…

Courts have ruled that merely executing an exe file is itself an act of copyright infringment, because the OS copies the contents into RAM. That's how deep it goes. The reason no users are violating copyright when running software normally is because of a special exception for software in the Copyright Act.

How about skip protection in portable CD players? It loads bit ahead of time into a little buffer of RAM.
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