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Winning A Bidding War With Facebook, Google Picks Up The Entire Milk Team

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Re: Winning A Bidding War With Facebook, Google Picks Up The Entire Milk Team

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That's just incredible. Milk made one application , gave it away for free, summarily shut it down, and sold for $15 - $30 million. I understand these guys are very talented, and that Google was buying the talent more than the product, but that's quite a price for some gifted people!

> quite a price for some gifted people! Every time I saw this happen in the 90s the result was the same: Small team shows up in big company after big $$, gets frustrated with big company BS, doesn't really care and runs down the game clock until vesting is nearly complete, leaves without fanfare. I'm sure there must be counter examples, please let me know some if you have them.

Bret Taylor at Facebook.

Re: Winning A Bidding War With Facebook, Google Picks Up The Entire Milk Team

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Yep...why go through the normal interview process to work at Google when you can get acqui-hired, get paid the same, but get a million-dollar "signing bonus"?

Don't hate the player, hate the game my friend.

Well, keep on hating the player and miss all the action then.

Do remember when the bubble collapses, you will be hurt far more than the players who already made their millions and can weather the collapse.

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$2-4M/person, just for the people. Boy does this sound like the telecom bubble, and the internet bubble before that. The music is playing, find a chair.

No. Suppose these 8 guys are paid $150k a year on average. Engineers, good ones at least, bring in more than they cost. In some cases like Instagram and Facebook, the ratio of users to engineers is in the millions. Google is similar. When you also bring into account the caché of someone like Rose, the lifetime earnings from that team probably well exceeds what was spent to aquire them.

And how do you think the reasoning went during the telecom and internet bubbles? Hint: Exactly the same.

I encountered competing business plans which went along the lines of: Hire a team of 10 badass engineers, sell for $10-20M. It was a helluva time to hire people.

Re: Winning A Bidding War With Facebook, Google Picks Up The Entire Milk Team

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Forgive me for not knowing this, but when an acquisition like this happens that is solely for the talent, do the developers themselves get any part of those millions, or does it all simply go to the company owner? If it does all go to the owner, what would stop the developers from banding together and leaving all at once so they could pick up those millions directly, instead?

It many cases the developers share (if not enough) are supplemented by a large additional bonus with a long vesting schedule.

"Golden handcuffs"

Re: Winning A Bidding War With Facebook, Google Picks Up The Entire Milk Team

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Yep...why go through the normal interview process to work at Google when you can get acqui-hired, get paid the same, but get a million-dollar "signing bonus"?

Don't hate the player, hate the game my friend.

why not hate both. everyone has a choice.

Re: Winning A Bidding War With Facebook, Google Picks Up The Entire Milk Team

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> quite a price for some gifted people! Every time I saw this happen in the 90s the result was the same: Small team shows up in big company after big $$, gets frustrated with big company BS, doesn't really care and runs down the game clock until vesting is nearly complete, leaves without fanfare. I'm sure there must be counter examples, please let me know some if you have them.

Bret Taylor at Facebook.

He didn't exactly get picked up to be some random engineer in a big corp.

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$2-4M/person, just for the people. Boy does this sound like the telecom bubble, and the internet bubble before that. The music is playing, find a chair.

That's like a compensation for opportunity cost incurred by giving up startups for a while.

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> quite a price for some gifted people! Every time I saw this happen in the 90s the result was the same: Small team shows up in big company after big $$, gets frustrated with big company BS, doesn't really care and runs down the game clock until vesting is nearly complete, leaves without fanfare. I'm sure there must be counter examples, please let me know some if you have them.

Bret Taylor at Facebook.

That's a good point. In his current role he is essentially the top technical person in the company.

I wonder if the reason alot of acquired entrepreneurs leave is that they are used to having so much authority and latitude that getting a middle manager role at google just feels like wearing a straight jacket.

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