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Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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> Google also reserves the right to delete data in a product if you are inactive in that product for at least two years. This part is unreasonable no? I sometimes don't use a product for a while, like google drive for instance, and the prospect of coming back to it and discovering that all my data has been deleted is a bit on the dreadful side. I don't want to have to keep track of which product Ive been using and ho…

If you care about having your data stored permanently, I think it is fair to say you should pay for it (eg: Google One subscription) or buy something on the Google Play Store as listed under the inactivity exceptions policy. If you expect to get something served to you for free forever, Google has a bridge to sell you.

We already pay with our data. None of these services are free and you know it.

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you care about having your data stored permanently, I think it is fair to say you should pay for it (eg: Google One subscription) or buy something on the Google Play Store as listed under the inactivity exceptions policy. If you expect to get something served to you for free forever, Google has a bridge to sell you.

We already pay with our data. None of these services are free and you know it.

Consider, with how much data Google has, that they don't care about having your data, especially if it's clearly been untouched for years.

Though either way, my point stands: If you value Google storing your data, pay for it. If you don't, that implies you don't actually care about your data because you refused to place any explicit value on it.

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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I don't work for google. I use Google, I have multiple Gmail as well as hosted by Google workspace domains. Overall I think this is reasonable. I can't see why people are upset, when the general burden to make it "live" is low. There are specific corner case problems: people who cannot login for various reasons, can't get Google humans to help, and who get mail forwarded so are limping along. And, there are a surpris…

> Don't depend on "free" for critical functions.

It's not free at all, Google uses every bit of data you reveal to them to power their ad business. It's a form of payment even if we don't talk about it this way.

This line of thinking also reveals an explanation for this new "Inactive Account" policy. Google doesn't care to keep old data — one needs to either feed them new signals they can sell / use to train their AIs or else... your account gets deleted.

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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I think of likely reasons this happens is username exhaustion. >100 million people are born every year, it won’t take centuries for us to fill up every namespaces with dead accounts. Before that inevitably happens, there will probably be a point we all have to switch over to identification not by user selected username but random alphanumeric ID string, with display names only for search, free from uniqueness require…

at some point you have to with enough mass..

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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I think of likely reasons this happens is username exhaustion. >100 million people are born every year, it won’t take centuries for us to fill up every namespaces with dead accounts. Before that inevitably happens, there will probably be a point we all have to switch over to identification not by user selected username but random alphanumeric ID string, with display names only for search, free from uniqueness require…

Here is my ICQ number and I promise it is better than MSN

haha that is funny thay solution was already there but wasnt that modelled on the idea of everyone having a phonenumber ?

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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I mean, this is just my guess; I could be wrong. But the vibe I get is that you basically have to do something non-trivial via the web (log in, create something, delete something, whatever) to show that a human is paying attention to the account and not just an automated system. Don't rely on automated means like IMAP, regardless of what actions you're performing with those.

I assume it’s tied to logging in or using the account while logged in. Email is a separate system, it’s possible they linked up the email system to the accounts system, but the easiest way to implement this would just be to update a timestamp every time someone logs in or makes an authenticated browser request.

Welp, back to Firefox containers it is then.

For those who don't know, you can have multiple Google sessions in different Firefox containers in a single Firefox profile/window.

This is an official Firefox adding as far as I know. It works with Firefox sync for me (not enabled by default).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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I think of likely reasons this happens is username exhaustion. >100 million people are born every year, it won’t take centuries for us to fill up every namespaces with dead accounts. Before that inevitably happens, there will probably be a point we all have to switch over to identification not by user selected username but random alphanumeric ID string, with display names only for search, free from uniqueness require…

> I think of likely reasons this happens is username exhaustion. I disagree, there is a solution out there, it's just more work because the client-software has to be smarter. We can take inspiration from how our meat-space society functions, where everybody maintains their own contextual aliases as metadata, something that can be personalized or shared. For example, imagine we have a big global commenting site, and m…

Yeah exactly my thinking. The user 499…215 is going to have some his own identity, but is also socially defined in contexts of friends or social bubble system like Google+ Circles/Discord Server/Mastodon Instance. That has to become the default over coming decade, perhaps half a decade.

Re: Inactive Google Account Policy

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already pay with our data. None of these services are free and you know it.

Consider, with how much data Google has, that they don't care about having your data, especially if it's clearly been untouched for years. Though either way, my point stands: If you value Google storing your data, pay for it. If you don't, that implies you don't actually care about your data because you refused to place any explicit value on it.

No, my point stands. We already paid, and continue to pay, Google. Google is wanting to double dip.
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