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Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by LtdJorge »

quantumfissure wrote: post #374
midasuni wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably those areas don’t need heating

Please don't make assumptions on something you don't know anything about. Even many northern US states (around the same Latitude as Madrid, north), on average, are 30-35+ every day during the summer and 0C to -10C in the winter. Many Canadians have air con. So yes, heating and air con is a requirement in many areas. I live in a northern state, and we regularly have full weeks that are 38-40C.

Hehe, you also described Madrid and basically the center of Spain. From -5 to 45 extremes. More normal is around 0 in colder winter days and 35+ in hotter summer days. 36 today.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by snoman »

uoaei wrote: post #410
snoman wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you honestly answer that question for literally anything you’ve ever bought, in your life?

Would any answer to your question mean mine is not one worth asking, or that it's not worth estimating those quantities to include in calculations of CO2e-opportunity cost?

It would demonstrate arguing in bad faith, certainly.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by sigilis »

abwizz wrote: post #390
patmorgan23 wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, American is pretty urbanized. Less than 20% of the population lives in rural areas. Yet the most popular vehicle for the past few years has been the ford F150. It's not being bought by rural or working class people, it's a luxury status symbol now.

> American is pretty urbanized. Less than 20% of the population lives in rural areas i'd like that number put into perspective, but it does not feel like on the low end. > Yet the most popular vehicle for the past few years has been the ford F150. It's not being bought by rural or working class people, it's a luxury status symbol now. thanks for the insight! but i struggle with the combination of "most popular" and "…

On that last statement, see iPhone for an example of a ubiquitous luxury status symbol with it occupying the top three slots for smartphone sales by model. However, it is not accurate to say that rural people are not buying F150s, they like status symbols as much as the next person and it does fit the requirements if someone wants a truck.

Sometimes people who live in urban areas like to pretend that no one lives outside of cities except cows and guns. 20% is still quite a few people at about 60 million. Not a exactly a rounding error.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by monstermunch »

rsecora wrote: post #235

Cool but is astonishing how expensive is the connectivity in other countries. >>> Verizon Gateway sitting on top of the rack. I get pretty good signal here and get the rated speed, of around 300Mb/s down and 20Mb/s up. This costs $50/mo. There are offers [0] in the EU of 10Gbps / 25 Euros/mo. [0] https://www.digimobil.es/fibra-optica/

Well, its not really apples to apples, that is a 5G connection... Of course the speeds are bad and relatively expensive compared to fiber

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by davkan »

joezydeco wrote: post #361
NKosmatos wrote: post #293

Come on, let's admit it fellow HNers... Most of us are jealous/envious of this network setup and would love to have the money and time needed in order to own something similar. Extra points for powering all these from solar panels and also for all the "little" gizmos (ADB, NTP, LoRa, TinyPilot, MQTT and temp/humidity/power monitoring). @monstermunch You're living the dream :-)

And not a single mention of the noise level in this room. Those rack servers get insanely loud. I had a single SuperMicro in the basement one summer and it had to go after a month or so. You could hear it everywhere.

Was it a 1U server? 2U and 4U servers can be typically be configured or modified to run at a noise level comparable to a gaming desktop. Performance 1U servers you'll hear through the floor though for sure.

I can tell you my 1U R620 servers lasted less than 6 months before I sold them for 2U R720s. I still wouldn't want to sit in a room with the R720s but you couldn't hear them through a door. Sold those when I moved and downsized to a tower server R430, equivalent to a 4U. It's in my office now and no louder than my desktop. I'll get rid of the raid array and downsize to a single hdd at some point to silence the heads clicking though.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by alex-korr »

groby_b wrote: post #405
bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

This depends on your area, and your ISP. If, say, you use AT&T and you need Internet for your job (WFH?), redundant Internet is crucial. It's not exactly "minutes" they are out. (Their outages states are often "meh, we'll get around to it in a day or so", figuratively) If you live in a rural area, even more so. You're not high priority for fixes in the first place. (And AIUI, the author lives somewhere in rural Texas…

Looks like a suburb of Houston.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by uoaei »

snoman wrote: post #422
uoaei wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would any answer to your question mean mine is not one worth asking, or that it's not worth estimating those quantities to include in calculations of CO2e-opportunity cost?

It would demonstrate arguing in bad faith, certainly.

What was the point of your question, then?

Why ask something akin to "why does anyone ever even try to audit stuff, tho?" What's with the stark epistemological nihilism?

Why do you even respond if you won't actually address any of the questions? How is that not exactly the bad faith argument style you imply I make?

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by justinlloyd »

I love looking at other people's setups, especially if they have done a clean-job on it.

Currently I have four small racks:

  Rack #1 & Rack #2 dual side-by-side (custom built)
  Rack #1
    NAS x1 4U
    NAS x2 4U
    Patch panel 1U
  Rack #2
    PDU 1U
    UPS 4U
    UDM Pro 2U
    24 Port switch 1U 
    Rackmount cable modem 1U

  Rack #3 (it's an arcade cabinet)
    Workstation 4U
    Rackmount Mac Minis (Intel & ARM) 2U
    UPS 4U

  Rack #4 (custom built)
    Supermicro 4U server (330TB) that doubles as the VR computer
    Supermicro 4U storage box (700TB)
    PDU 1U
    UPS 2U
I like tinkering, but I don't rely on my racks for anything other than compute and storage. Technically I have a partial rack in a data center that I have never physically seen, where I self-host all the usual services, but as I only rent that rack, I don't consider it "mine." Tinkering with a homelab is a useful IT skill to have, even if you don't work directly in an IT only area, but you shouldn't burden yourself with an overly complicated setup. Keep life simple (and organized).

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by myrandomcomment »

As someone that has build huge nation wide networks and data centers I can tell you this is far from what I want at home (now)! When I was a young network engineer I had a Sun SPARC5 running OpenBSD as a firewall. Ultra10 for my desktop. I ran my own DNS and a rack of servers. Wifi was new and of course I ran cutting edge OSS firmware on whatever was the latest HW. Too much work!

Today, Ubiquity HW. Enterprise 48 PoE, 1/2.5/10G core, small PoE powered 5 port switch behind TV, etc. for fan out where needed (I did rewire house with Cat6A). 3 of the latest APs that support 6E. NVR for the cameras. TrueNAS MiniXL+ for NAS that I can run K8s on if needed (cheaper to pay IXsysten for the setup then build myself, including time). AppleTV for media. Leviton Wifi switches for remote control power/lights. 5 gig symmetric fiber internet with a Comcast backup that auto fails over (UDMP-SE for firewall). It all just works and I spend zero time on it.

About the only tech head thing I still have is a stand alone 4 generation old CPU (i7) running ... gentoo targeted at that CPU for speed, as a Minecraft server. And honestly that is going to be replaced with a 2 year old SFF box soon with a less complex version of Linux :)

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