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Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Are there actual situations where you would even want this much data on a single drive?

I am 100.0% sure this is what someone has said for 256GB drives, 256MB drives, 256KB drives, and the same person will be saying it for 256YB drives.

But practically don’t you reach a threshold where storing that much data on one drive makes it a bottleneck and safety risk until the speed of the surrounding systems catch up?

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

#82
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Why the downvotes? This is observably true “for most people”

This is bizarre to me. Cloud storage kills the need for small drives. So for the individual with modest storage needs, the cloud is relatively inexpensive and thought free. But the moment you get over 2TB the cloud gets extremely expensive. So if you're a person who needs to store a lot, large drives make a lot of sense. This to me, it's the opposite of observably true. You would think large drives would be most in d…

> Cloud storage kills the need for small drives.

I'm not sure that cloud storage kills anything. There's reasonable mistrust in it and much of the world lives with unreliable infrastructure..

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

#83
post #73

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Why the downvotes? This is observably true “for most people”

This is bizarre to me. Cloud storage kills the need for small drives. So for the individual with modest storage needs, the cloud is relatively inexpensive and thought free. But the moment you get over 2TB the cloud gets extremely expensive. So if you're a person who needs to store a lot, large drives make a lot of sense. This to me, it's the opposite of observably true. You would think large drives would be most in d…

are you only asking/observing yourself and your tech-savvy friends?

cloud storage doesn’t make local storage irrelevant. just less relevant. drives still fail, new machines are built, etc, etc. and when that happens to the average consumer, they don’t seek out the biggest drive available. just whatever is down the street.

and just down the street doesn’t want to stock dozens of massive drives, lest the average consumers balk at the prices.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Those $100 2TB drives are probably because of this: https://www.theverge.com/22291828/sandisk-extreme-pro-portab...

I see Samsung 2TB drives on sale for around $100 periodically, are they subject to the same problem?

Samsung drives have been fairly bulletproof, even among their budget offerings.

I've recently had an unexpected run of failing WD Blue SSDs and just had a new Sandisk drive (not one from gparent) fail, right after I backed another drive up to it.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

#85
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Don't even have to set your sail; this landlubber likes likes to shoot videos with a smartphone, and these days, recording a few minutes of a family event, or even your plane taking off, in decent quality, will easily give you a multi-gigabyte video file. And that's for normal videos; $deity help you if you enable HDR. And yes, this is the universal answer to "how much storage is enough" - use cases will grow to cons…

I'll be curious to see the file sizes for Apple's version of 3D video capture in their Vision goggles. After one, two or three generations, I'm sure the first gen files will look small and lacking.

Of course. It won't encode touch and smell.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

#86
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That's what the server is for.

And there are many reasons for one to prefer having their workstation be their server.

In fairness, it has a screen and keyboard connected, but no mouse. Adding a mouse would be trivial.

Anyway, 20TB takes a 3.5" bay, something my laptop lacks.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

#87
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It's QLC NAND (~1000 program/erase cycles from https://www.purestorage.com/knowledge/what-is-qlc-flash.html ). eesh. [Update] from https://www.anandtech.com/show/20007/samsung-teases-256-tb-s... : "Samsung's 256 TB SSD is based on 3D QLC NAND memory and probably uses innovative packaging to cram multiple 3D QLC NAND devices into stacks." 3D QLC should have higher endurance than regular QLC. We'll have to wait and see…

> The PM9D3a achieves a mean time between failure (MTBF) of 2.5Mhr, a 25% improvement over the previous generation, allowing customers to operate more stable services. This number doesn't reflect that, but maybe the MTBF is just a distraction.

Yes, MTBF as reported on the spec sheets is purely a distraction when it comes to SSD reliability.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

#88
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Oh look at Mr. “I pay legitimate streaming services for all my tv shows and movies” over there. (= I have a 12 TB NAS that is 99% full at the moment. Should I delete movies I may want to watch later, knowing full well they aren’t easily available on the streaming services I pay for? Ha. It fills fast!

The people streaming their data are just using someone else's SSD... at the end of the day all this data we generate and consume sits somewhere

I'm also deduplicating that data by not storing it locally.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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its wild because the 4gb h265 ones are great I have 4k screens and an okay sound system, who are these whatever-philes that think these 60gb rips change the experience meaningfully like, how many audio tracks you need and the other 50gb so you can stare at black pixels and say “wow these blacks are so impressive”

I can absolutely tell the difference and it’s frankly annoying to collect something which will become obsolete not just within your lifespan but when you’ll likely have a lot of lifespan left to go. 4K blurays to me hold up compared to 5k/6k/8k raw footage to the point I wouldn’t be too troubled if I had an old format on my NAS when an h.267 8k version came out. You can have a great experience by streaming videos dir…

you know, I’ve never actually bought a bluray video before, maybe I’ll pop one in my ps5 and see if I’m blown away, or more likely if the other sources start having things I cant unsee

I did recently get back into piracy, and did a couple comparisons since I figured 4gb h265 is so last decade, and I really wasnt amused by the larger bluray rips. I have 20/10 vision acuity and can also see a broad vivid colorspace. I have great monitors and screens chosen for that color space and quality too.

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