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Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#82

This article is classic SEO fluff right? The Q&A style answering exactly the type of questions that people comparing the two would write into google search.

What makes it "fluff" to you? My definition of "fluff" is that it doesn't answer my question, and that I walk away from it with no idea what the product even is. This is mostly concrete and I can tell you roughly what Narrowlink is and isn't after reading their (misspelled) page. Something like: "Introducing NarrowLink, the world's most advanced and secure VPN solution! With our cutting-edge technology, you'll experi…

Wow, did you use ChatGPT to write that? I actually enjoyed reading it knowing that it was going to be fluff in advance.

Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#83

> Narrowlink and Tailscale are two open source solutions with different architectures that enable secure remote access and connectivity across networks. A nitpick, but ironically I think they're being generous to Tailscale there. Tailscale isn't really "open source" - or at least not without heavy qualification. I'm not an open source zealot by any means but that line just seems a little misleading. The clients are p…

(Tailscalar) The client is completely open source on open source operating systems. The repository you linked to is 100% of the client for Linux, and there's another repository for Android. As a bonus you can run the open source client on closed source OSs, i.e. macOS, WSL2. We never open sourced our coordination server because Headscale beat us to it.

> We never open sourced our coordination server because Headscale beat us to it.

Can you elaborate? This sentence makes no sense to me. Headscale is not tailscale, so they didn't "beat you to it", they just released a competiting product.

Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> access to the services trough on the agent as a proxy I assume the services trough is somewhat of a poor man's service bus

or misspelled "through" but that wouldn't make much sense either.

That’s the way they picture it on the intro page of their docs [1], so it makes sense to me.

In general, that page is a lot clearer about the product than the linked one.

[1] https://narrowlink.com/docs/intro

Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One's not usable in any corporate context, especially one that's so low level in the network stack. The doc post is a content marketing post (in this case, for SEO hacking specifically) disguised as a technical comparison, so they clearly have monetisation in mind. In other words, disingenuous advertising.

Why isn’t AGPL usable?

It isn't usable if your goal is to take the open source project and turn it into a component of your own commercial product that is for sale and is closed-source.

But I think more than half of the people in this thread have the opposite opinion (that if it isn't open source, it isn't usable) and I tend to agree with that.

Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#87
"Narrowlink and Tailscale are two open-source solutions with different architectures that enable secure remote access and connectivity across networks."

The opening statement of this document is misleading and indicative that the author isn't really aware of what is open source and what isn't. A more appropriate comparison should be between headscale and narrowlink.

Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#88
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And we all know apples and oranges are incompatible in every single way. Even their physical dimensions or prices can't be meaningfully compared! Seriously though: both of those products aim to provide secure tunnelling/network connectivity. They do it differently, which leads to different trade-offs including, among other things, at which level the OS network stack is intercepted. All of those things can be meaningf…

Both of those products provide that functionality on paper, but they are widely different products with widely different audiences. I think their respective "Get Started" buttons show it best: Tailscale tries to get you connected to your team and to download the client as fast and easy as possible (= it's a product for everyone in the company), while Narrowlink throws you to a lengthy explainer page that no non-techn…

Notice how you actually have compared those two products according to one particularly (arbitrarily?) chosen criterion.

Re: Tailscale vs. Narrowlink

#89
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Don't forget Nebula[1]. [1] https://slack.engineering/introducing-nebula-the-open-source...

Used Nebula to build a cross-cloud Nomad cluster, very underrated and does 99% of what you'd want from Tailscale.

This is my favorite tool in this space as well. It's very simple and p2p.

I don't know why it seems to be so far below the radar in these comparisons / conversations. Perhaps the Tailscale marketing is just that good :)

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