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Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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You need theory before you get implementation.

Wager: None of the theory on this page will have any bearing on the implementation of a real world AI system that solves any problem of interest. Not that there aren't problems to solve regarding AI, just that this line of inquiry won't be relevant to solving them. It'll be complicated boring work dealing with power structures, economics, and social movements, not thought experiments about omnipotent Others.

"In preparing for battle, I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable." Eisenhower.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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It's not beyond human understanding. Unless you mean that one must know everything from every research paper released. At its core you are just finding a well performing model using gradient descent. Gradient descent is not beyond human understanding.

Gradient descent in isolation is obviously not what they are alluding to. What the models are doing inside the box and what any of those millions or billions of weights mean or do is beyond human understanding.

I don't think it is, as somebody who's spent maybe 100 combined hours reading AI papers mostly focused around NLP and image classification.

You have a dataset, symbolically represented in 1s and 0s. You have an objective function (e.g. classify the object as belonging to one of N categories).

The purpose of the collective neurons in the network is to "encode" the input space in a way that satisfies the objective function. In the same way that we "encode" higher-level concepts into shorthand representations.

Gradient descent is the optimization function we use to develop this encoding.

Beyond this, there are all kinds of tricks people have developed (interesting activation functions for neurons, grouping + segregating neurons, introducing a dimension of recurrence/time, dataset pre-processing, using bigger datasets, having another model generate data that's deliberately challenging for the first model) to try to converge to a more robust/accurate encoding, or to try to converge to a decent encoding at a faster rate.

There is no magic here at the lowest level – you can interrogate the math at each step and it'll make sense.

The "magic" is that we have zero epistemology to explain why tricks work, other than "look, ma test results". We know certain techniques work, and we have post-hoc intuitive explanations, but we're mostly fumbling our way "forwards" via trial and error.

This is "science" in the 17th century definition of the term, where we're mixing chemicals together and seeing what happens. Maybe we'll have a good theoretical explanation for our experimental results 100 years from now, if we're still around.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

#113

It's fairly clear to me that there is no such thing as AGI. Intelligence is a process of integrating sensory input with action and reward mechanisms -- nothing more, nothing less. Are there specific structures and architectures that have evolved that are very unique which give humans, say, language ability or visual processing? Certainly. Perhaps by gods spark or some random chance on the board game of life human bei…

Sorry, but I completely disagree with your general take. An AGI is a generalized agent which is able to perform extreme information compression on any available set of inputs. Think Force = m*a and coming up with the laws of the universe. You can store each possible action in memory of all available results OR -- a generalized agent will find the most succinct and least complex form of modelling the state of a system…

Intelligence as compression is a well-established notion. An earlier debate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24395822

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

#114
It's strange to write a history of AI research without talking about the three big epochs:

- logical/symbolic AI, aka GOFAI, which led to work like SAT solvers and STRIPS planners

- classical label-based Machine Learning. Here the Perceptron was the starting point and the Support Vector Machine was the paradigmatic result.

- modern self-supervised raw-data ML, of which GPT is the pinnacle result.

It's very interesting to think about what motivated each era, what their blind spots were, and why people who worked in that timeframe couldn't see why the successor era was obviously (in retrospect) superior.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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>> In the past, there were some ambitious projects aiming at this goal, though they all failed. So some people like to repeat. Yet, outside of the hand-picked examples in the article (the 5th generation computer project? Blast from the past!) there are a whole bunch of classic AI domains where real progress has been achieved in the last few decades. Here's a few: * Game-playing and adversarial search: from Deep Blue…

There seems to be only one broad paradigm which achieved basically all the AI big impact we see today: Deep learning. That is, machine learning with multi-layer neural networks with backpropagation and ReLU activation functions. Everything else seems to be mostly irrelevant or very small scale.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

#116
post #97

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Tell them something important to remember, ask a week later.

Needs a few more constraints, otherwise someone could just maintain a session for a week and this task would be trivial

Sure, point is, we could easily design A test that 5th graders could pass that GPT4 as it is today would fail.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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>> In the past, there were some ambitious projects aiming at this goal, though they all failed. So some people like to repeat. Yet, outside of the hand-picked examples in the article (the 5th generation computer project? Blast from the past!) there are a whole bunch of classic AI domains where real progress has been achieved in the last few decades. Here's a few: * Game-playing and adversarial search: from Deep Blue…

If Data from Star Trek (or Eva from Ex Machina) walked out of a lab, we’d have no problem accepting that AGI had been accomplished. Or if the scenario in the movie Her played out with the Samantha OS, we’d be forced to admit not only to AGI, but the evolution of ASI as well. However, there are no such examples in the real world, and after months of overhyping ChatGPT, we still don’t have anything like Data. So it’s n…

Well if we don’t have Data several months after ChatGPT, clearly we should shut it all down.

It’s been months! Give it a few years :)

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gradient descent in isolation is obviously not what they are alluding to. What the models are doing inside the box and what any of those millions or billions of weights mean or do is beyond human understanding.

I don't think it is, as somebody who's spent maybe 100 combined hours reading AI papers mostly focused around NLP and image classification. You have a dataset, symbolically represented in 1s and 0s. You have an objective function (e.g. classify the object as belonging to one of N categories). The purpose of the collective neurons in the network is to "encode" the input space in a way that satisfies the objective func…

Nobody said anything about Magic.

>There is no magic here at the lowest level – you can interrogate the math at each step and it'll make sense.

See that's the thing. You can't unless "making sense" has lost all meaning.

That you can see a bunch of signals firing or matrices being multiplied does not mean they "make sense" or are meaningful to you. Lol level gibberish is still gibberish.

Our ability to divine the purpose of activations of anything but the extremely small scale is atrocious.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Data from Star Trek (or Eva from Ex Machina) walked out of a lab, we’d have no problem accepting that AGI had been accomplished. Or if the scenario in the movie Her played out with the Samantha OS, we’d be forced to admit not only to AGI, but the evolution of ASI as well. However, there are no such examples in the real world, and after months of overhyping ChatGPT, we still don’t have anything like Data. So it’s n…

>If Data from Star Trek (or Eva from Ex Machina) walked out of a lab, we’d have no problem accepting that AGI had been accomplished Lol no. What testable definition of general intelligence does GPT-4 fail that a good chunk of humans also wouldn't ? If you can answer this then you have a point, otherwise I really beg to differ.

How about tic-tac-toe (noughts and crosses for those in the Old Dart)? Currently GPT-4 is terrible at it!

Sure, you could trivially program a game-specific AI to be capable of winning or forcing a draw every time. The trick is to have a general AI which has not seen the game before (in its training set) be able to pick up and learn the game after a couple of tries.

This is a task any 5 year old can easily do!

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

#120
AFAICT this is an incomplete first draft?

As others have said, skipping over the entire era of classic AI in the LISP/Prolog era from SHRDLU to Scripts, Plans, Goals, and Understanding, is an egregious ommission.

Also,I don't immediately find a discussion of either multi-agent coordination or multi-modal ML models.

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