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Play deprivation is a major cause of the teen mental health crisis

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Re: Play deprivation is a major cause of the teen mental health crisis

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Not at all true. They can choose to go to very good public universities with in state tuition (often around $10-12k per year). We can sit down and discuss the tradeoffs of the degree they are getting vs the earning power of that degree. And the tradeoffs between being a commuter student and one that lives on campus. Or saving money by attending community college the first two years. NONE of those conversations will h…

I don’t have time to look up tuitions for each state, but that’s highly dependent on where you chose to live. Something that your children have no control over. I certainly did not have a “very good public university” with $10k tuition. My state flagship (Rutgers) was over $20k per year. Other states public universities were often even more expensive, Berkeley would have cost more than any private university I was ac…

Annual in-state Tuitions (not counting room/board, so roughly 2x-2.5x if you add these) for a handful of VERY good public universities:

- University of Maryland, College Park ~ $10k a year [1]

- University of California, Los Angeles ~ $15k a year [2]

- University of Pennsylvania, WOW $56k ... that's .... CRAZY for a public University.

Obviously this is not at all a good sample size but I picked public universities in populous areas in states that cover a lot of the population. And I'm picking better known ones. Someone else probably has a lot of good, statistical data on this, like the US Gov Department of Education.

1: https://academiccatalog.umd.edu/undergraduate/fees-expenses-...

2: https://admission.ucla.edu/tuition-aid/tuition-fees

3: https://srfs.upenn.edu/costs-budgeting/undergraduate-cost-at...

Re: Play deprivation is a major cause of the teen mental health crisis

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You might be surprised that alcohol is not a low-risk drug by some measures i am aware of that. i am using alcohol simply as a baseline. any other substance must not pose any higher risk. ideally less even. Note that MDMA and LSD are considered considerably less dangerous than alcohol here i was not aware of that, but i guess the realization of this is why more and more places are considering making such drugs legal.…

I really appreciate your time discussing this. It's helped me understand a different viewpoint, and I hope you have got as much out of it as I have, which is a lot!

i think that was the most enlightening and deep discussion i had on hackernews so far. thank you for that. my email is always open for any other discussion like this.

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except when someone shoots up their school, it seems

I don't understand what you mean, but I might be missing something since school shootings aren't a thing here. Are you saying that parents don't care when their children are killed in a school shooting?

In the US, it's society at large that doesn't care when children are killed, regardless of how parents feel. Half the country refuses, on principle, any further legislation regarding control of firearms, knowing the consequences, and choosing anyway.
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