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Most of the history of technological development is the other way around. Theory-driven novel engineering is actually quite rare.
Quantum mechanics was quite handy to develop electronics.
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I’m not weighing in on the debate, but there does seem to be a great deal of doubt that Koko was using language in an intelligent way.
Even when she reported about her toothache? If this situation was not fabricated (why to fabricate a work of your life and how to do it unnoticed) the situation meets the definition of intelligence. What are your doubts, are they related on some data?
“Great deal” may be overstated.
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Quantum mechanics was quite handy to develop electronics.
Quantum mechanics came about after we already had electronics. If anything it was a result of the hundred year disruption in physics that the use of electricity brought.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/112615/why-is-it...
>> In the past, there were some ambitious projects aiming at this goal, though they all failed. So some people like to repeat. Yet, outside of the hand-picked examples in the article (the 5th generation computer project? Blast from the past!) there are a whole bunch of classic AI domains where real progress has been achieved in the last few decades. Here's a few: * Game-playing and adversarial search: from Deep Blue…
That is just the confusion between AI and AGI - which may seem to be peaking for some reason (in the past few days it seemed like a zombie apocalypse). The so-called "AI effect" is said by some to originate from some "Ah but this is not intelligent" - but there where we wanted to solve a problem of replacing intelligent action, not of implementing it. Be contented with the rough discriminator "I would have had to pay an intelligent professional otherwise".
To speak about «powerful AI, with broad capabilities at the human level and beyond» Ben Goertzel adopted and popularized 'AGI':
https://goertzel.org/who-coined-the-term-agi/
Edit, update: this confusion is like having robotics and some people rising a "Ah but this is not Artificial General Ability".
"Artificial General Intelligence – We don't know the heck where this is going but here are some thoughts"
AGI is not a difficult "problem". It's a difficult "definition". Given very specific, practical, functional definitions, AGI is a breeze.
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> we haven't seen the slightest proof that human intelligence is not something special. Have we seen the slightest proof of opposite? > I know lots of animals are pretty clever, none approach us in any practical sense. What senses might you consider as enough practical? Have you heard about Koko? What do you think about corvidae?
> Have we seen the slightest proof of opposite? Well, for one, I see no competition. I don't know what the technical definition of "special" is, but I'd say being the only one counts for something. > What senses might you consider as enough practical? Have you heard about Koko? What do you think about corvidae? I know both and I know this is a slippery slope. You should know my love for animals runs deep, but I reall…
> Practical means something like, can they adapt their skills as widely as we can?
The most crucial (in my opinion, which has been not introduced to any more crucial points) difference between us and Koko is that we can hold our breath and gorillas can not. That leaded us to develop speech in the seance that speechless group of apes can not win an exactly same group of apes with more developed communicative ability. This, and probably nothing more, has led to such a large gap between humans and apes, so large that humans have ceased to see the relationship between themselves and apes.
I see your understanding of "practical" as something specialized, like agricultural revolution. But why a gorilla should start planting foods if it knows that nobody is going to protect its crops while sleeping because of just lack of common language?
> Can they adapt to uncommon situations?
What can be more uncommon than living on a trees without a warm house and typically without any house at all, without regular nutrition, with a lot of really different enemies from tiny insects to giant cats, with a regular fights, with no democracy and law and medicine?
Being disadvantaged requires to face some uncommonities every day, what about office managers? Disadvantaged people (if they are just poor men and not disabled ones on welfare) can easily survive nuclear war because most of them are OK about living in a similar to gorillas livestyle, but I can not believe that most of average Joes survive a situation when their money are going to cost nothing because of lack of civilization.
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Most of the history of technological development is the other way around. Theory-driven novel engineering is actually quite rare.
Quantum mechanics was quite handy to develop electronics.
>> In the past, there were some ambitious projects aiming at this goal, though they all failed. So some people like to repeat. Yet, outside of the hand-picked examples in the article (the 5th generation computer project? Blast from the past!) there are a whole bunch of classic AI domains where real progress has been achieved in the last few decades. Here's a few: * Game-playing and adversarial search: from Deep Blue…
> considered Artificial Intelligence anymore That is just the confusion between AI and AGI - which may seem to be peaking for some reason (in the past few days it seemed like a zombie apocalypse). The so-called "AI effect" is said by some to originate from some "Ah but this is not intelligent" - but there where we wanted to solve a problem of replacing intelligent action, not of implementing it. Be contented with the…
I would contend that a 5-year-old has general intelligence, and therefore an AI system with the language and reasoning abilities of a 5-year-old has artificial general intelligence.
But the discriminator of having to "pay an intelligent professional otherwise" sets the bar very high. That implies AGI must be an expert in every subject, surpassing the average human. I'd prefer we use a different term for that, like "artificial superintelligence."
Better title: "Artificial General Intelligence – We don't know the heck where this is going but here are some thoughts"