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Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

Gareth321 wrote: post #310
ivolimmen wrote: post #227

I find this really disturbing. On the one hand this looks really nerdy and cool but then I see the immense amount of hardware that also relies on power... so much power. This is completely unnecessary but then I also see the pictures of an F150.. so yeah it makes sense. I have to categorize this as a (un)typical American person that does not care about the environment. Do like the fact that he runs a RIPE probe thoug…

In many U.S. states, their primary energy generation is nuclear. This is extremely environmentally friendly, meaning no issues with OP using a bunch of power. We really need to stop demonising the use of energy. Energy is amazing. It is the reason we have seen to much prosperity in so little time. It's the backbone of our economies. Of medicine and the internet and EVs and well insulated homes. We should be doing eve…

It's not about the energy for me. A lot of these posts make networking and homelabs seem like a dark art that only folks with tons of space, capital, and time can get into. Networking is anything but, it's about sending a packet of data over a wire! But when we glorify these elaborate, expensive setups, we not only lose focus on what the goal of a network should be (to satisfy needs for its users), we also discourage newcomers from tinkering with networks which to me is the bigger crime.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by Gibbon1 »

snerbles wrote: post #237
kriops wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find your comment to be at the absolute peak of sanctimony. Who are you to decide if it is necessary or not? Furthermore, why are you justified in negatively stereotyping Americans – a diverse group of individuals?

The satisfaction from serving up self-righteous condemnation is one hell of a drug.

Giving attitude from 50 degrees north latitude.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by kilroy123 »

NKosmatos wrote: post #293

Come on, let's admit it fellow HNers... Most of us are jealous/envious of this network setup and would love to have the money and time needed in order to own something similar. Extra points for powering all these from solar panels and also for all the "little" gizmos (ADB, NTP, LoRa, TinyPilot, MQTT and temp/humidity/power monitoring). @monstermunch You're living the dream :-)

I'm definitely jealous. I think it's ridiculous and awesome at the same time. I imagine it uses a lot of electricity though.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by ryan-c »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #311
ryan-c wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of the difference is air conditioning?

I don't really think 2x the power usage comes from AC. The US has plenty of areas that only need a bit of AC for only part of the year.

It's definitely not all of the difference, but it's gotta be some.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by b3orn »

Gareth321 wrote: post #310
ivolimmen wrote: post #227

I find this really disturbing. On the one hand this looks really nerdy and cool but then I see the immense amount of hardware that also relies on power... so much power. This is completely unnecessary but then I also see the pictures of an F150.. so yeah it makes sense. I have to categorize this as a (un)typical American person that does not care about the environment. Do like the fact that he runs a RIPE probe thoug…

In many U.S. states, their primary energy generation is nuclear. This is extremely environmentally friendly, meaning no issues with OP using a bunch of power. We really need to stop demonising the use of energy. Energy is amazing. It is the reason we have seen to much prosperity in so little time. It's the backbone of our economies. Of medicine and the internet and EVs and well insulated homes. We should be doing eve…

I looked it up, 5 US states get the majority of their electricity from nuclear power, 4 from wind, 3 from hydro. The other states use coal, natural gas and petroleum.

Source: https://www.nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-g...

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by justapcgamer »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #270
gchokov wrote: post #264

My first thought is - imagine hiring this guy to architect your corporate network. The cost would probably be 10x for hardware, for the "just in case" factor and coolness to the setup...

For a corporate network I would love to have more "just in case". We had a day long wifi outage at the office once, productivity plummeted and the cost of that far outweighs the cost of buying and setting up back-up hardware.

I am reading this during a network outage thats been going on for half of the day now. I Wish we had some of that "just in case" but the higher ups get what they paid for I suppose.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by [deleted] »

NKosmatos wrote: post #293

Come on, let's admit it fellow HNers... Most of us are jealous/envious of this network setup and would love to have the money and time needed in order to own something similar. Extra points for powering all these from solar panels and also for all the "little" gizmos (ADB, NTP, LoRa, TinyPilot, MQTT and temp/humidity/power monitoring). @monstermunch You're living the dream :-)

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Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by amadsen »

ivolimmen wrote: post #227

I find this really disturbing. On the one hand this looks really nerdy and cool but then I see the immense amount of hardware that also relies on power... so much power. This is completely unnecessary but then I also see the pictures of an F150.. so yeah it makes sense. I have to categorize this as a (un)typical American person that does not care about the environment. Do like the fact that he runs a RIPE probe thoug…

Sigh. This is a guy who is clearly passionate about his hobby and was excited to share it with us. Leave it to hn to shit all over it.

Some people fly to Africa and shoot elephants for fun - as far as hobbies go, this is fairly benign. If you care about the environment, I mean actually care, then you should recognize that policing how many computers someone have in their closet is counterproductive. I don't buy the "every little bit helps" argument because there is always an opportunity cost. Attention spans are limited and focusing on this non-issue does nothing but draw attention away from things that actually matter like meat consumption and fossil fuels.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by perfopt »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #274

I used to have an overkill home network, complete with self hosting everything and 10G backbone. These days i'm more pragmatic. I have exactly 2 wired machines, and everything else runs Wifi. The network "rack" is simply a firewall and a 16 port POE switch, everything else network related has been retired to the closet. My NAS is gone. With electricity frequently going above €1/kWh last winter, it seemed like a bad i…

Could you share how you set up the cloud backup? Also, what cloud providers you use

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by midasuni »

ryan-c wrote: post #324
Karrot_Kream wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really think 2x the power usage comes from AC. The US has plenty of areas that only need a bit of AC for only part of the year.

It's definitely not all of the difference, but it's gotta be some.

Presumably those areas don’t need heating
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