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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by _thisdot »

drozycki wrote: post #97
the_gipsy wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads. uBlock doesn't exist for iOS because it is made impossible by apple, their extension API is not a "full" API.

I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Precompiled declarative blocking is more performant and power efficient than running a content script in a JS VM at page load, which matters on a CPU and battery constrained device. I was responding to a comment cl…

If anything, my problem is sometimes it’s too strong. Searching for a product on Google and clicking the Amazon links don’t work

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by Daedren »

HexDecOctBin wrote: post #51

Meanwhile, on the iOS version, they can't even support the OS-provided content blocker API, meaning Safari has better support for privacy-related add-ons than Firefox. https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios/issues/7374

You can’t use the App Store Safari extensions on webviews.

They’d have to add their own content blocking list, much like they did with Firefox Focus.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by orra »

Dalewyn wrote: post #89
orra wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mozilla unfortunately had already forfeited the Android browser market to other competitors by not enabling this day one Er, Mozilla marketshare on Android is low because of Google anti competitively bundling Chrome with the Play Store.

Firefox defeated IE which was bundled with Windows at the time. Chrome continues to defeat everyone, including Edge which is bundled with Windows. Firefox's reason for irrelevance today has nothing to do with whether its competitors are bundled with operating systems.

Chrome is, and majorly was, pushed by Google websites. Using one near monopoly to create another.

Also, Firefox never defeated Internet Explorer. You are misremembering that. Firefox once made impressive market gains despite the anticompetitive competitor bundling. That doesn't mean it's feasible to keep doing it.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by junek »

cubefox wrote: post #80
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #22

Out of curiosity I recently did an experiment to investigate Add-Ons in Firefox for Android. Some facts: One does not need Firefox Nightly to run more extensions than the "supported" ones. Creating a "custom" collection of Add-Ons on addons.mozilla.org can be done using a disposable email address. There is no visible Settings option to add a custom collection in Fennec from F-Droid. To make it visible, one has to go…

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> the vast majority of Fennec users are obviously men

Do you have any evidence to support that claim?

Also the existence of women is not an "ideological slant".

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by shultays » 

  coming
*coming back

They removed it. It was one good thing about Firefox mobile and they removed it.

Now please bring back the old UI and fix other issues you broke with that update (so the window that shows tabs so it doesn't forget where its position was, or make external video player work again) and I might switch back.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by orra »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #50
doctor_radium wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iceraven's reason for existence has been about allowing (pretty much?) all Firefox addons since day one. And about:config. Wish you hadn't downvoted him.

Yep, and I still have to deal with my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements, and all the other stuff Firefox says aren't important to users. But I do it, why? So that all those scaremongers who screech "but you have to use Firefox! Otherwise youre helping the evil only other game in town!" like they always do don't have a single argument. Mozill…

> Mozilla shows utter disdain for their users with just about every announcement, update, new feature or new restriction

This is absolute hyperbole. Have you forgotten the context? You're on a story about full extension support being implemented, which is exactly what you wanted.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by autoexec »

Dalewyn wrote: post #87
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

>It's popular to hate on Firefox, I don't hate Firefox, I hate Mozilla.

I'll always love Mozilla, or at least some fictional idealized version of it, so I'm stuck being increasingly disappointed in Mozilla while holding out for the times they do something right. Giving add-on support back to firefox users is a good thing so here's hoping it won't be done in a way that disappoints me. I hope they bring back about:config next.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by asu_thomas »

Dalewyn wrote: post #87
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

>It's popular to hate on Firefox, I don't hate Firefox, I hate Mozilla.

Why?

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by bjord »

kikokikokiko wrote: post #90
ptman wrote: post #85

We need to be able to directly fund Firefox instead of all the other mozilla stuff. https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/ability-to-donate-money...

We need to donate to a new team/foundation/corporation, anyone at all, that would fork Firefox and continue it's development. I would never, ever, give a single cent to the Mozilla Foundation. It's current form is not focused on what the users of it's products want or need. The ideology Mozilla loves to shove in it's users faces is just the cherry on top. I've been using Firefox ever since the early 2000s, and even d…

Just for record, I'm not with you as far as the anti-mozilla stance. That being said, what's stopping you (or anyone) from funding a team that continues to work on firefox within the same fork, rather than potentially duplicating their work? Is your impression that mozilla's ideology would prevent that other team from doing meaningful work or going in a direction that you believe they need to go?

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by cycomanic »

Nextgrid wrote: post #91
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

The other browsers you mention though don’t pretend to be on your side and don’t use every possible opportunity to tell you about it. Firefox on the other hand, despite having a lot of user-hostile functionality and design decisions, will constantly nag you pretending to be on your side, misleading you into a false sense of security.

Those arguments always remind me of this comic: https://www.cjr.org/wp-content/themes/cjr2017/images-body/NY...
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