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Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by theossuary »

bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

There's a reason other than "because it's fun to tinker." I do it because I love the capabilities it provides. I don't love managing Ceph & Proxmox & whatnot, but I love being able to deploy whatever I want into a beefy cluster with 10gb without having to worry about cloudspend. If I wanted to replicate what I run in my home infra (I don't consider it a lab), it'd cost 200-300 in compute and easily another 300 in storage a month. Instead I spent ~2k on hardware and ~35/month in electricity.

It's the same thing with 3d printers, some like them because they want to install clipper and tune the best/fastest benchy. I do it because they love being able to CAD something and have it in my hands as soon as possible.

That said, nobody goes as far as this guy without really enjoying the tinkering

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#102

Post by judge2020 »

NoPicklez wrote: post #99
deepsun wrote: post #53

SpeedTest.net tests are useless, as ISPs give higher priority to traffic to known speed checkers. They can legally do that as we don't have Net Neutrality anymore.

I believe that's why Netflix introduced the fast.com speedtest, which runs through Netflix servers. Reducing the likelihood that the test gets shaped.

The link - https://fast.com

Cloudflare's - https://speed.cloudflare.com

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by mhb »

Are there any building code considerations (e.g., chimney effect for a fire) regarding a multi-floor wiring chase? Isn't this why laundry chutes are no longer permitted in some places?

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#104

Post by hqsolomo »

theossuary wrote: post #101
bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

There's a reason other than "because it's fun to tinker." I do it because I love the capabilities it provides. I don't love managing Ceph & Proxmox & whatnot, but I love being able to deploy whatever I want into a beefy cluster with 10gb without having to worry about cloudspend. If I wanted to replicate what I run in my home infra (I don't consider it a lab), it'd cost 200-300 in compute and easily another 300 in sto…

Very well said- good catch! That's a very compelling reason!

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by hqsolomo »

wesapien wrote: post #86
bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

Most of the time it's the IT Infrastructure, Operations, Security guys that love to do this for (WHY) learning, testing and as a hobby. Check out r/homelab and r/selfhosted for more on this.

Servethehome forums and smallnetbuilders are also good resources, if you're not a fan of Reddit for some reason!

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by imiric »

This is inspiring. Great work!

My homelab is a mess of cables, and half-baked deployments running on old Supermicro and custom servers, that is way too noisy, and probably pulls a lot of power. I wouldn't know, as I've yet to track power usage... (One of those projects I never get around to ';-D)

Everything's stacked on a Lack rack, even though I have a 24U rack in a closet doing nothing. This is partly because of space and cabling constraints, but _one day_ it will all be neat and tidy, clean and efficient. One of these days...

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by bmitc »

hqsolomo wrote: post #95
bmitc wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotcha. Thanks for the reply! To be clear, it wasn't a judgment but just a question to understand there weren't some unapparent reasons why. I think it makes total sense as a hobby and learning, but perhaps still overkill as the post title mentions. Haha.

I apologize if it seemed like I was irate- I'm not and your question is 100% the question we all ask ourselves before doing things like this (or for some of us, it's the first question on the wife acceptance factor audit). If anyone is running a data center in their home for a serious reason they either have small loads to justify the power consumption (rpi k8s cluster says hi), stacks to blow, regulatory pressure, o…

Lol. I was under zero impression that you were irate or anywhere close. My question was a little judgemental perhaps but not necessarily meant in any way. I was also curious if there was some interesting need that had come up. My primary thing that I want is a bunch of PoE powered nature cameras, buy I'm still figuring that out. It will affect whatever comes up though. Oh, and stable WiFi coverage.

I certainly have hobbies that go above any need or reasonable collection, namely synths and books. Haha.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by lostlogin »

bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

Another personal anecdote.

Wifi is rock solid, networking is fast, backups good and outages are almost nonexistent and are always due to me messing with things. I have Netflix, Apple TV+ (is that what it’s called?) and a few others. Particularly with Netflix, the quality is junk so I watch off Plex.

Other benefits are pretty neat too. POE just works. You can power cycle things remotely if you want (have never needed to) and the abundant local storage makes everything easy.

Enterprise stuff that is getting old is also dirt cheap. Converting sections of the network to 10gbe was very inexpensive.

It’s all rather addictive…

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by bmitc »

theossuary wrote: post #101
bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

There's a reason other than "because it's fun to tinker." I do it because I love the capabilities it provides. I don't love managing Ceph & Proxmox & whatnot, but I love being able to deploy whatever I want into a beefy cluster with 10gb without having to worry about cloudspend. If I wanted to replicate what I run in my home infra (I don't consider it a lab), it'd cost 200-300 in compute and easily another 300 in sto…

What do you run on your cluster? CAD compute?

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by greggyb »

envyac wrote: post #77

Curious why you didn't stack them like... 1. 24p Patch Panel (Odd ports of switch) 2. 48p Switch 3. 24p Patch Panel (Even ports of switch) 4. 1u Cable Mgmt Then you could have bought 4-6" Cat 5e/6a pre-made patch cables to connect in the majority of your patch panel ports. The only cables that would traverse through the cable mgmt panel would be longer cables to the servers in your rack. I have a similar Cisco switch…

I noticed this as well. The patch panels seem only to bring some wire to the front of the rack, only to immediately send the patched wire toward the back of the rack again.
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