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Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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Isn't this product kind of impossible? Like a compression program that compresses compressed files? If you have an algorithm for determining whether a generated image is good or bad couldn't the same logic be incorporated into the network so that it doesn't generate bad images?

That's essentially how using a GAN works.

E: or how it's supposed to work.

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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The male astronaut with coffee [1] (that I believe you're using as a "verified" example) has an extra finger on his right hand [1] https://www.rubbrband.com/static/media/astronaut_with_coffee...

And his cup backwards

Look more closely: the cup has two handles.

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

#43

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We're building prompt alignment models too so you can objectively see how well SDXL follows your prompt :)

Are you building prompt alignment model alignment models so I can objectively see how well what your prompt alignment model is judging SDXL’s interpretation of my prompt against aligns with my prompt? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its how your prompt aligns with the SDXL image output, not how your prompt aligns with SDXL's interpretation of your prompt

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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post #40

Isn't this product kind of impossible? Like a compression program that compresses compressed files? If you have an algorithm for determining whether a generated image is good or bad couldn't the same logic be incorporated into the network so that it doesn't generate bad images?

We’re optimistic about using our own algorithms and models to evaluate another model. In theoretical computer science, it is easier to verify a correct solution than to generate a correct solution (P vs NP problem).

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

#45

Fundamentally it sounds like you built an ML model(s) and are trying to monetize it behind an API. How does that work medium-term? Are you expecting there won't be open source alternatives, is your value in hosting the model (and if so will you open source yours) or is there another angle. I've built ML models and looked into how to monetize them, and overall it seems like a tough play without the model being part of…

Yeah it's a great q

The way we think about it is that we're building a product for organizations in scaling mode, and they have deep needs on the product-side. Flexibility on filtering, different client-libraries, a clean observability interface, etc...

It's possible that we open-source parts of our models, but fundamentally we think we can capture value by building a great all-around web product, and not just a set of eval models.

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

#46
This is a brilliant idea. Whenever I look at an image these days that has the "texture" of a generated image, I immediately start looking at certain features such as "more than 5 fingers" to determine whether it's real or not. If you could immediately detect those features and block the generated image from making it to production, that'd be a huge value gain.

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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And his cup backwards

Look more closely: the cup has two handles.

haha I thought this was a funny example to use. On second thought we'll replace it with something better!

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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Are you building prompt alignment model alignment models so I can objectively see how well what your prompt alignment model is judging SDXL’s interpretation of my prompt against aligns with my prompt? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its how your prompt aligns with the SDXL image output, not how your prompt aligns with SDXL's interpretation of your prompt

Isn't it actually how the SDXL image output (that is, SDXL’s interpretation of my prompt) aligns with your model’s intepretation of my prompt?

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

#49
post #40

Isn't this product kind of impossible? Like a compression program that compresses compressed files? If you have an algorithm for determining whether a generated image is good or bad couldn't the same logic be incorporated into the network so that it doesn't generate bad images?

We’re optimistic about using our own algorithms and models to evaluate another model. In theoretical computer science, it is easier to verify a correct solution than to generate a correct solution (P vs NP problem).

Do you, or will you, use human labor in any instance on evaluating images?

Re: Launch HN: Rubbrband (YC W23) – Deformity detection for AI-generated images

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actually very cool to me that you remember these pivots. From the inside these pivots were about solving problems we faced with our previous idea. We mainly pivoted either because we discovered the market wasn't great, or we didn't have founder-market fit with the idea. There's a gut feeling aspect that plays in there as well, but it's mostly been analytical approach.

Thank you for answering. Best of luck with this idea!

thanks, good luck with your startup as well!
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