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Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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Most VPN services are already blocked in Russia by both mobile and landline providers. Many also block Tor. However now it seems like Russian mobile providers are blocking not just VPN services but even the underlying VPN protocols (WireGuard, OpenVPN). Interestingly Telegram is still not blocked in Russia.

Probably because the Russian army uses Telegram. Even their MoD has a channel posting updates and propaganda

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Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I set up WireGuard server for my family back in Russia in the first days of the war and since then provided VPN access to a few more families. It’s been a lot more stable than relying on popular VPN providers who get banned one after another.

Any advice on alternatives to WireGuard, if Russian gov manages to ban it on protocol level with DPI?

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I'm a little confused what Russia has to gain from this. My impression was previously that Russia was somewhat of a wild west when it came to piracy and internet restrictions. To make things weirder, the article claims that only mobile networks are affected. I wonder why that is. Is this just the decisions of a handful of telcos and it's being reported as a state-imposed restriction? Edit: also in my opinion, "blocki…

The war isn't going as they imagined it. 1.5 years into a "3-day operation" against a smaller poor country armed with hand me downs and some of the western peacetime production does not fit the narrative of 2nd best army in the world. It's embarassing for the government that we there are even talks about them running out of tanks. Locking down the internet supposedly helps against espionage and allows easier control…

The fact that this appears to be mobile-targeted suggests the intent -- restrict free information flow to the masses.

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I set up WireGuard server for my family back in Russia in the first days of the war and since then provided VPN access to a few more families. It’s been a lot more stable than relying on popular VPN providers who get banned one after another. Any advice on alternatives to WireGuard, if Russian gov manages to ban it on protocol level with DPI?

Most of these nation-state-run blocking attempts tend to block known VPNs but allow ssh through. So, my suggestion would be ppp over ssh. See https://tldp.org/HOWTO/pdf/ppp-ssh.pdf for more details. You'll need a Linux-ish server, and you'll need to fiddle with routing tables on both the server and the client to get the incoming VPN connections to be able to contact the wider internet. But it's probably the least likely to be blocked.

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have noticed many new security and privacy oriented projects use Go and even C/C++. Wasn't Rust supposed to be the language that should be used to write all security-critical software? What happened? Are crates like rustls/ring still intentionally sabotaging Rust's cryptographic ecosystem with their "we will always be pre-1.0.0 and never have a stable API" philosophy?

> Wasn't Rust supposed to be the language that should be used to write all security-critical software? What happened? What does "supposed" mean in this case? There's no one dictating what language "security-critical" or other software will be written. So, if it was "supposed", it was incorrectly supposed, by people reading some enthusiast posts about Rust and thinking it's adoption is inevitable or that it applies to…

Who would use unsafe Java to write "security-critical" software?

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

#46

I set up WireGuard server for my family back in Russia in the first days of the war and since then provided VPN access to a few more families. It’s been a lot more stable than relying on popular VPN providers who get banned one after another. Any advice on alternatives to WireGuard, if Russian gov manages to ban it on protocol level with DPI?

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Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I set up WireGuard server for my family back in Russia in the first days of the war and since then provided VPN access to a few more families. It’s been a lot more stable than relying on popular VPN providers who get banned one after another. Any advice on alternatives to WireGuard, if Russian gov manages to ban it on protocol level with DPI?

SOCKS5 SSH has been my go-to for years.

ssh -D9050 ;

point your browser to localhost:9050 and bobs-your-uncle.

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I set up WireGuard server for my family back in Russia in the first days of the war and since then provided VPN access to a few more families. It’s been a lot more stable than relying on popular VPN providers who get banned one after another. Any advice on alternatives to WireGuard, if Russian gov manages to ban it on protocol level with DPI?

Most of these nation-state-run blocking attempts tend to block known VPNs but allow ssh through. So, my suggestion would be ppp over ssh. See https://tldp.org/HOWTO/pdf/ppp-ssh.pdf for more details. You'll need a Linux-ish server, and you'll need to fiddle with routing tables on both the server and the client to get the incoming VPN connections to be able to contact the wider internet. But it's probably the least lik…

It's quite trivial to tell if this SSH connection is just a tty or serves as a passthrough for something else, just by usage patterns.

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I'm a little confused what Russia has to gain from this. My impression was previously that Russia was somewhat of a wild west when it came to piracy and internet restrictions. To make things weirder, the article claims that only mobile networks are affected. I wonder why that is. Is this just the decisions of a handful of telcos and it's being reported as a state-imposed restriction? Edit: also in my opinion, "blocki…

> I'm a little confused what Russia has to gain from this.

Nothing at all. It's a pointless exercise with which some cyber security apparatchik in Putin's regime hopes to earn kudos from his credulous betters.

In fact it will likely be detrimental once the filter forces communication of legit traffic (...) to propagate without VPN, which you know will happen the minute someone gets inconvenienced.

Russia. \o/

Re: Russia Starts Blocking VPN Protocols

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I'm a little confused what Russia has to gain from this. My impression was previously that Russia was somewhat of a wild west when it came to piracy and internet restrictions. To make things weirder, the article claims that only mobile networks are affected. I wonder why that is. Is this just the decisions of a handful of telcos and it's being reported as a state-imposed restriction? Edit: also in my opinion, "blocki…

Im in Russia now posting this over on a wireguard vpn, using a landline ISP. So far no problems, havent tried on mobile.

Try Mullvad.

EDIT:

:rolleyes: try using Mullvad, specifically WireGuard servers, specifically on mobile providers.

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