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If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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post #34

Low quality "china scary" article that basically reiterates something that is true in virtually all five eyes and shengen countries. Violate the law and you can be held for criminal prosecution.

>Legal experts say virtually any party to a civil dispute in China involving a foreign national can ask local police to add their opponent’s name to a national database of exit bans that police check at every airport, railway station and other border crossing...

That is certainly not how things are in most Western countries.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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I’ll be honest. As an American (originally from 3rd world country) I have zero intention of traveling internationally. Why would I? I live in the best country in the world. For tech, startups, lifestyle, food (i can eat any cuisine from around the world and access to amazing restaurants), hiking, etc. The last place I'd visit is some authoritarian place.

your doing yourself a disservice judging the US the best country in the world without at least seeing for yourself.

It’s called being in a bubble.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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post #34

Low quality "china scary" article that basically reiterates something that is true in virtually all five eyes and shengen countries. Violate the law and you can be held for criminal prosecution.

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> since China is a dictatorship now.

When was China not a dictatorship? Isn’t the issue now that it has become something less of a benevolent dictatorship with regard to foreign travelers recently?

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Don't travel to China.

People aren't. latest number is showing that traveling to China collapsed 95%. incidentally, FDI collapsed

"in the second quarter of 2023 foreign investors “only put about $5bn of fresh capital into China […] in 2021, we saw close to $100bn per quarter!”

https://unherd.com/thepost/foreign-investment-plummets-as-th...

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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I’m very curious if exit bans are typically targeted towards Chinese nationals, dual-nationals, or foreigners.

Spies or people tied to spies. When canada arrested or kidnapped the chinese huawei executive a few years ago on US orders, the chinese government held canadian spies in return. Tit for tat. Of course we whine about it endlessly and push propagnada to make the chinese look like the bad guys.

Spy accusations are common but rarely have merit.

When Australian politicians said some firm things about China there was a spate of Australian reporters of Chinese origin being detained, this spread to Australian reporters in general.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-31/australian-detained-i...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-08/bill-birtles-mike-smi...

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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post #34

Low quality "china scary" article that basically reiterates something that is true in virtually all five eyes and shengen countries. Violate the law and you can be held for criminal prosecution.

>Legal experts say virtually any party to a civil dispute in China involving a foreign national can ask local police to add their opponent’s name to a national database of exit bans that police check at every airport, railway station and other border crossing... That is certainly not how things are in most Western countries.

Except in Canada where huawei's executive got the same treatment, or the US where the no fly list exists with little recourse.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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I’m very curious if exit bans are typically targeted towards Chinese nationals, dual-nationals, or foreigners.

Spies or people tied to spies. When canada arrested or kidnapped the chinese huawei executive a few years ago on US orders, the chinese government held canadian spies in return. Tit for tat. Of course we whine about it endlessly and push propagnada to make the chinese look like the bad guys.

everyone is a bad guy.
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