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If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by goodbyesf »

owenmarshall wrote: post #16

I’m very curious if exit bans are typically targeted towards Chinese nationals, dual-nationals, or foreigners.

Spies or people tied to spies. When canada arrested or kidnapped the chinese huawei executive a few years ago on US orders, the chinese government held canadian spies in return. Tit for tat. Of course we whine about it endlessly and push propagnada to make the chinese look like the bad guys.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by moomoo11 »

I’ll be honest. As an American (originally from 3rd world country) I have zero intention of traveling internationally.

Why would I? I live in the best country in the world. For tech, startups, lifestyle, food (i can eat any cuisine from around the world and access to amazing restaurants), hiking, etc.

The last place I'd visit is some authoritarian place.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by richbell »

goodbyesf wrote: post #31
owenmarshall wrote: post #16

I’m very curious if exit bans are typically targeted towards Chinese nationals, dual-nationals, or foreigners.

Spies or people tied to spies. When canada arrested or kidnapped the chinese huawei executive a few years ago on US orders, the chinese government held canadian spies in return. Tit for tat. Of course we whine about it endlessly and push propagnada to make the chinese look like the bad guys.

> the chinese government held canadian spies in return

So they claimed; I don't think this was ever substantiated.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by usmannk »

moomoo11 wrote: post #32

I’ll be honest. As an American (originally from 3rd world country) I have zero intention of traveling internationally. Why would I? I live in the best country in the world. For tech, startups, lifestyle, food (i can eat any cuisine from around the world and access to amazing restaurants), hiking, etc. The last place I'd visit is some authoritarian place.

If someone who lived in Manhattan said this about traveling domestically, it would sound insane right? Your comment comes off the same way

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by gehwartzen »

moomoo11 wrote: post #32

I’ll be honest. As an American (originally from 3rd world country) I have zero intention of traveling internationally. Why would I? I live in the best country in the world. For tech, startups, lifestyle, food (i can eat any cuisine from around the world and access to amazing restaurants), hiking, etc. The last place I'd visit is some authoritarian place.

your doing yourself a disservice judging the US the best country in the world without at least seeing for yourself.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by SantalBlush »

ws169144 wrote: post #26

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Maybe we can rephrase this in a more useful way:

>This sort of government overreach is unfortunate, and is not specific to China. For example, the US unreasonably suppresses Chinese companies, like Huawei, ZTE, DJI, etc., and India groundlessly seizes private corporate assets.

Something like that makes it more relevant to the discussion, I think.

Not commenting on the validity of any of the statements, just trying to be charitable.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by ultrameow »

moomoo11 wrote: post #32

I’ll be honest. As an American (originally from 3rd world country) I have zero intention of traveling internationally. Why would I? I live in the best country in the world. For tech, startups, lifestyle, food (i can eat any cuisine from around the world and access to amazing restaurants), hiking, etc. The last place I'd visit is some authoritarian place.

I haven't been to every place in the world, but I've been to several outside of the US, and they've been great without exception. I think you should give it a try.

Re: If you travel to China, be aware of an exit ban

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Post by modzu »

canucker2016 wrote: post #27
ecshafer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think my freedom is at risk when I go there honestly. There are probably people in some fields or businesses that do have some risk. But I think the fears are overblown.

As long as you or any relation/acquaintance/company/nation you belong to do not offend China, you're cool. Case in point: the two Michaels from Canada detained 'suddenly' after a Huawei executive was detained in Canada in relation to a US govt case: https://globalnews.ca/news/8224094/canada-china-two-michaels... Though a third Canadian had his conviction retried to a worse sentence - death.

for context, a million canadians visit china every year
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