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Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by squarefoot »

pkulak wrote: post #104
barrysteve wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It goes without saying at this time, an internet connected computer is a privacy liability.

Internet-connected Windows computer.

> Internet-connected Windows computer.

Plus any Internet connected and proprietary (as in closed) device.

AI will be trained on home appliances usage, what fridges contain, washing machine cycles, robot lawnmowers cleans, and of course phones, TVs and cars usage. Pretty much every connected and proprietary device, from vehicles down to electric toothbrushes, will phone home usage data that will be used to train AI, besides of course users profiling for marketing purposes.

An old tagline once said something like "Windows, security, networking; choose only two, you can't have them all". Now it would be "proprietary, privacy, connected; ...".

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by type0 »

> Those include the types of websites you visit, which Intel says are dumped into 30 categories and logged without URLs or information that identifies you, including how long and how often you visit certain types of sites.

Will Intel Arc GPUs be optimized for VR porn?

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by Espionage724 »

olyjohn wrote: post #154
Espionage724 wrote: post #143

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No, not like that at all lmao Just wait until you hear about your cursor being tracked on pages and what images and positions on the site you hover and stop scrolling over :p Intel isn't giving my browser data to enemies of the state. What do you really think Intel is doing with this information? And yeah, website URLs are important since people want to bootstrap and toss WebGL all over the place needlessly; all that…

This guy defends Intel so fucking hard it makes me cringe.

Yeah I defend stuff that works :p

AMD is what you get without telemetry; crap API support on Windows (they took their already mangled stack and Jay Wilson'd it May 2022), next to no innovation with AI, flopped OpenCL, and have to concede with HIP since CUDA is too good. They can't even fix their botched TPM support that's so bad it had to be disabled globally on Linux.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

Espionage724 wrote: post #163
olyjohn wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This guy defends Intel so fucking hard it makes me cringe.

Yeah I defend stuff that works :p AMD is what you get without telemetry; crap API support on Windows (they took their already mangled stack and Jay Wilson'd it May 2022), next to no innovation with AI, flopped OpenCL, and have to concede with HIP since CUDA is too good. They can't even fix their botched TPM support that's so bad it had to be disabled globally on Linux.

Username checks out ;p

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by donmcronald »

JohnFen wrote: post #106
WirelessGigabit wrote: post #71

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That used to work in the past with different IPs. Now an IP might have hundreds of DNS records pointing to it. But fine, installing AdGuard works great. But now we're fighting against 2 things: Things smashed together on the same domain, so no longer separate subdomains. And DNS of HTTPS, so we can't even get all our traffic to go over the same DNS server.

> And DNS of HTTPS, so we can't even get all our traffic to go over the same DNS server. I bet there's a market for something like a user-friendly mitmproxy variant to plug that hole. It might even be able to be a part of pi-hole for pi-hole users.

I bet there would be, but I'd also make a big bet that MS, Google, and Apple will make "trusted TLS chains" or some BS part of the trusted computing model "for your safety".

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by titzer »

notaustinpowers wrote: post #141
the_lego wrote: post #66

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It would be useful , it would not be ok. It's still an invasion of privacy, and Intel has no business knowing I play (and how much), e.g., a gay dating simulator, Postal, Hogwarts Legacy, or any number of other games that either are or will be controversial, incriminating, or just useful as another data point in a personality profile. So many of the devil's advocate posts justify it by explaining how spying on users…

Exactly, this information being harvested can 100% be used against you. For example, Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, attempted to secure a list of every Texan who changed their gender within the past 24 months, stating they may need drivers license numbers in the future to look up their information. The only reason that didn't happen is because the Department of Public Safety said they couldn't accurately produce…

You have to understand that national security letters (NSLs) are the tip of the spear here. If the target of surveillance is sufficiently bad or scary, the government has tools and absolutely will use them to get this information. Once that is normalized, and companies literally build platforms to service those requests, then that capability gets pushed down to federal investigators, then local law enforcement.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

rolandog wrote: post #158
WirelessGigabit wrote: post #71

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That used to work in the past with different IPs. Now an IP might have hundreds of DNS records pointing to it. But fine, installing AdGuard works great. But now we're fighting against 2 things: Things smashed together on the same domain, so no longer separate subdomains. And DNS of HTTPS, so we can't even get all our traffic to go over the same DNS server.

> Things smashed together on the same domain, so no longer separate subdomains. We can refine the regexps so that we approve certain subfolders within a same address.

You can't due to more and more software (ab)using certificate pinning.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by Dalewyn »

olyjohn wrote: post #153
Dalewyn wrote: post #64

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The question posed was why Intel would want to track what websites you visited for their video drivers. I answered why. That was followed up by asking if telemetry has value for the user. I answered it can. The reality of products generally not improving with telemetry is beside the point. That is a problem with the people using the telemetric data.

You're just making up reasons why you think they are collecting this data. You haven't even verified this or actually know anything about why they are collecting it.

No, I didn't confirm anything since I don't work at Intel, but I can make reasonably educated guesses as to why they could want this information.

If you're just going to discuss in bad faith, and I wouldn't be surprised since telemetry is always going to be criticized no matter what, you can take a look at the Hacker News Guidelines[1] and re-evaluate your presence here.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by Tokumei-no-hito »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #108
yeck wrote: post #86

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If you see where the packets are going you might be able to block at the DNS level.

> If you see where the packets are going you might be able to block at the DNS level. There are many DNS blocklists out there and some of them do indeed block domain names from known telemetry (aka "spying") services. But if some telemetry directly report to specific IP addresses then blocking at the DNS level won't help. FWIW my firewall blocks some companies' known IP CIDR blocks (like FB/Meta) and my DNS (unbound)…

> In addition to that the only process allowed to emit ongoing traffic to port 443 is the process running my browser.

How did you get this configured?

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