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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by progman32 »

aunty_helen wrote: post #379
progman32 wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're telling me that there are devices built into civilian airplanes that are able to disable or hobble the engines based on the whims of _business agreements_? It seems beyond reason that a pilot would be denied an engine's full design thrust, especially in a contingency that requires as much performance as possible (terrain avoidance, wind shear, aerodynamic surface failures, engine flameouts, on-ground emergenci…

Thrust ratings are a thing. They’re “programmed” using a dummy plug. Literally an electrical connector that has a cap on it and inside that cap is a bunch of wires that loop back and bridge pins. The pin combo represents a thrust rating. The plug is set and screwed into the fadec at manufacture and then updated after each service based on the test cell run. Overhaul is often defined in terms of thrust ratings. Custom…

That makes sense and is much closer to how I understood things. Parent comment made it sound to me like there is a whole subsystem dedicated to plane DRM.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by foverzar »

kspacewalk2 wrote: post #378
foverzar wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious? It's an obvious slander bs. Btw, it's a reference to Orwell.

Yes, obviously it's a reference to Orwell. However, I see no hate. Criticism of fascist invasions and their perpetrators is not hate.

Firstly, if you understood that this is a reference, why are you trying to interpret separate words literally?

And secondly, there was no constructive criticism or even any mention of "fascism" or "invasion".

Following your own logic, I could - just for the sake of example, mind you - claim that you come from hellish slave-hole where people eat babies and then justify it with actually literally the same slogan as you did. Would that be as fucking stupid? Yes, it would.

Now, should I expect you to accuse me of whataboutism for trying to build a consistent logical framework?

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by foverzar »

genocidicbunny wrote: post #338
saiya-jin wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aeroflot was widely regarded as worst international airline (on par with say Nepal airlines but for very different reasons) way before any invasion started. Typical russian mentality and alcoholism is simply not a good match to highly structured and regulated environment of very complex machinery. Everybody I know tried hard when travelling from Europe to Asia to avoid using them, even when they were often the cheape…

There's a reason that passengers on Aeroflot used to applaud a successful landing.

It's not just "passengers on Aeroflot". It's an old airtravel tradition that lots of people find to be quite wholesome.

Do you say a polite "thank you" to a cashier? Well that's a similar thing - thanking aircrew for their labour.

https://enroute.aircanada.com/en/aviation/clapping-when-plan...

https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/68259/when-and-wh...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/kiwi-traveller/131118567/flig...

https://www.skytough.com/post/why-do-people-clap-when-the-pl...

https://executiveflyers.com/why-do-people-clap-when-the-plan...

Some people find it irritating though, but who cares about these boring prunes.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by foverzar »

tguvot wrote: post #188
foverzar wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is why recent prigozhin roadtrip to moscow completely didn't happen at all according to russian media ? Who exactly told you this? I assume you don't personally interact with Russian media? You can check that what you claim is not true with just a few keystorkes. Do you need a list of popular media outlets in case you can't find on your own? I am honestly curious why are you so sure of this, because I see thes…

>Who exactly told you this? I assume you don't personally interact with Russian media? You can check that what you claim is not true with just a few keystorkes. Do you need a list of popular media outlets in case you can't find on your own? after those two days it went to "on june 23-24 absolutely nothing happened in russia" >There must be someone who feeds you this idea. i am native russian speaker (not russian. nev…

Now you are just moving goalposts (even up to claimig that bloggers arent media in the neighbouring thread) and base your argument on the fact that something does not fit your personal expectations.

It was a hot topic and it is still discussed from time to time (though more hot topics have appeared since). I'll try to get you some links when I have enough time and if I won't forget. Damn, I should really implement that media tracking and cross-referencing project concept I've been fiddling with - that's just a perfect usecase for it.

> In Russia media is controlled by kremlin. It's "widely" reported what are the general talking points are delivered by kremlin to media and what topics should be suppressed. You want to say that white house and american media companies have same relationship ?

What I want to say is that journalists employed in "big" influential media have a VERY good sence of what optics and points are appropriate and politically correct to report or not, without any explicit control.

A perfect example of this would be the matter of neo-nazi militias influence in Ukraine that was rather extensively discussed and reported on in western media (that's how I personally figured there is a certain ground truth to it, first taking it seriously after BBC and Radio Free Europe reports), until it suddenly became a no-no-hush-hush topic and "Russian propaganda".

It's called "post-truth" and sometimes even semi-officially acknowledged as "editorial policy". And it's EXACTLY the same in Russia.

EDIT: That was easier than I assumed. Thanks to google for " site:" query format, and thanks to the fact that news-sites have tags:

https://iz.ru/story/miatezh-evgeniia-prigozhina

https://ria.ru/person_Evgenijj_Prigozhin/

https://www.kommersant.ru/theme/3482

https://www.rbc.ru/tags/?tag=%D0%95%D0%B2%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%...

https://russian.rt.com/tag/evgenii-prigozhin

https://rg.ru/sujet/6796

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by MobileVet »

nocoiner wrote: post #301
MobileVet wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I first heard about Vladivastok when The Hunt for Red October came out. I have been fascinated with it ever since, hoping to make a journey someday. I love that this was just a mundane trip for you.

I hate to possibly be the bearer of bad news, but I can’t think of any plot points in that movie that involved Vladivostok. The action all took place in the Barents Sea and North Atlantic, after Red October left Murmansk through the Polyarnny Inlet. Vladivostok is on the other side of the country, many, many time zones away.

Holy crap you are right!!

I wonder if there is a reference later in the movie? Either that or it was another movie and the reference was about sending you to the middle of no where, because, as you said, it’s out there.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by SanjayMehta »

cpursley wrote: post #377
SanjayMehta wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. The NYT and Washington Post are so much more reliable.

You’re getting downvoted by people who never bothered to read “Manufacturing Consent”.

I haven’t read that either but I’ve read NYT and WaPo for years.

Will check it out, thanks.

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