Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

Post by vasco » Wed, Aug 09, 2023, 7:26 PM UTC

steveBK123 wrote: post #565

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What about managers/trainers of sports teams, if the stars of the team get a significantly higher salary? The manager/trainer might order them around, but does that make them belonging to a higher class, even if they earn way less than their "subordinates"?

you are misreading "owns a share of the hive, decides how many bees to hire/fire, where they work, when they work, what % of the honey to share with the worker bees" Team managers/trainers do not meet most of those criteria. At most the GM meets the majority of them. Only the team owner would meet all the criteria.

Post by pseudalopex » Wed, Aug 09, 2023, 7:27 PM UTC

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> To be honest I think with hybrid, open offices make a lot of sense. Realistically you want to be able to hot desk because that's where the cost savings are made in a hybrid situation. This doesn’t sound like a stable equilibrium to me; more like a transition to full remote that you do when you’re waiting for your lease to run out. Not even having your own permanent desk sounds like utter hell.

I seriously doubt anyone's going to maintain hybrid working and give everyone permanent desks in any situation, though.

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Post by selimthegrim » Wed, Aug 09, 2023, 7:33 PM UTC

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> it's never been my experience but it's a thing Yes it is a thing. It starts when you get promoted to a more senior role. The thing is, nothing much changed inside or outside, so many people feel they need to make a point. They start to dress differently, behave differently, introduce distance - to make sure others understand who is in the "superior" position. I noticed thin in insecure types or those who need some…

There are executive-class perks in most medium-to-large companies, but at least in tech, they're kept on the down low so you have to kind of look for them to find them. Personal assistants are probably the most visible. Private meeting rooms / bathrooms / entrances for the executives, chauffeurs, cooks, masseuses, access to corporate jets, hard-to-get tickets to sporting / arts events, separate housing allowances and…

Post by pseudalopex » Wed, Aug 09, 2023, 7:45 PM UTC

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It's trivial to you that a few extra pieces of drywall and a handful of additional planks of wood would launch the cost of a buildout into the stratosphere? Are you even reading the comments about studies showing the lost productivity (and therefore revenue) caused by open office spaces? I didn't say it wouldn't cost one penny more than an open office, I said it wasn't wildly different. So many buildouts go halfway a…

When I consider "the cost of the buildout", I consider that to be the cost to do the buildout, nothing more. Productivity gains/losses are outside the scope of that. I.e., the claim, as I read it, is that construction of an open office is more expensive than a non-open floorplan, per employee. (If you consider that, yes, I think open office is the long-term worse option, and the parenthetical in my comment pretty cle…