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Post by S201 »

setgree wrote: post #190
_zoltan_ wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would be a deal breaker for me. 0 respect.

In my dream world we would normalize things like eating on a zoom call. People gotta eat, it’s no big deal. Maybe if they’re audibly slurping soup that’s a problem in terms of noise, but that would also be a problem during a boardroom meeting. (I once got in a lot of trouble for having a bowl of cereal while I was a silent participant in a call with a client at a fintech company, so I understand that attitudes like y…

People also gotta shit. Should I do a Zoom call while on the toilet?

It's a matter of where is your attention. If you're eating you're not fully focused on the other participant you're interacting with and not being fully present for them is rude.

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Post by darth_avocado »

TrackerFF wrote: post #175

Having previously worked at a place where it took minimum 3 months to hire someone (but often 6-12), I'd be amazed if Canonical actually ever gets to hire their first choices. What happened was this: By the time the first pick hires had been cleared, they had gotten another job. Same with second pick. Maybe even third, too. Most people don't have the luxury or will to just sit and twiddle their thumbs for months and…

I recently had the misfortune of trying to find a job in a rough hiring market. I was appalled by what I saw. Very few companies move fast. Here’s what I saw on average for a software engineering role:

1. Excruciatingly long application processes, especially when companies required you to use workday for applying (30mins - 2 hours)

2. 2 weeks to hear back from the recruiter

3. 1-2 weeks to schedule a recruiter call

4. 1-2 weeks for a phone screen

5. 1 week to confirm results

6. 1-2 weeks for another round if not moving to on-site directly

7. 2-3 weeks for scheduling an onsite

8. 1-2 weeks for results (more immediate if it’s an obvious reject)

9. Additional 1-2 weeks for finalizing an offer and signing it.

The shortest end to end I could manage to get was around 2 and a half months, which is crazy.

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Post by ghaff »

prmoustache wrote: post #219
TrackerFF wrote: post #175

Having previously worked at a place where it took minimum 3 months to hire someone (but often 6-12), I'd be amazed if Canonical actually ever gets to hire their first choices. What happened was this: By the time the first pick hires had been cleared, they had gotten another job. Same with second pick. Maybe even third, too. Most people don't have the luxury or will to just sit and twiddle their thumbs for months and…

The only time it took me more than 2 months to get a job, that was also the time I wanted to move to another country. All in all it was nice for me to take the time to ponder on the pros and cons, triple check the kind of quality of life I would have in the expected range of salary, housing, schools, etc. I am not sure I would stay motivated in another context.

Depends on the position. Took me about 2.5 months for current role between sending the first email and getting a formal offer. (I even got accidentally stood up when I was going to meet someone over breakfast :-)) But I was having conversations/interviews with senior people and it was just hard to get people in the office. (This was well pre-COVID so everything was in-person.)

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Post by hadlock »

thiht wrote: post #142
rcarmo wrote: post #101

A few years back, I actually made it all the way through to Mark, who interviewed me while having dinner (on his end). My essay focused on Ubuntu on ARM and how critical it would be for hyperscalers, which at the time wasn't really a thing at all (that should date me). I ended up declining their offer mostly because nowhere during any step of the process but the very end they pointed out they could only contract, not…

> interviewed me while having dinner (on his end) Wtf? Couldn’t he have done that at a more convenient time?

I would imagine he is on the phone 8-12 hours a day when not at the office, and still 4-6 hours a day at the office. Someone at his level, especially as a founder/owner is talking to somebody pretty much at all waking hours, and meals happen during calls unless it's an exceptionally important meeting.

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Post by vincentkriek »

hashtag-til wrote: post #110

(A bit off-topic, but to give another example of where convoluted hiring processes get you to...) Last year, I did 8 interviews (including 4 technical assessments and quizzes) to get an offer from AMD (in Germany) as a software engineer. For completeness, they reached out to me. I wasn't really looking at the time. When I got the offer, salary+bonus was less than what I had at the time (a lot less now) living in a si…

This was my experience with canonical. I made it through the interview process to the offer stage and the offer was far from competitive for my country (the Netherlands).

Was bit bummed about this, I would love to work for canonical as they do great stuff and their embedded Linux offering is a great product. Just doesn't really make sense sadly.

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by rurp »

TrackerFF wrote: post #175

Having previously worked at a place where it took minimum 3 months to hire someone (but often 6-12), I'd be amazed if Canonical actually ever gets to hire their first choices. What happened was this: By the time the first pick hires had been cleared, they had gotten another job. Same with second pick. Maybe even third, too. Most people don't have the luxury or will to just sit and twiddle their thumbs for months and…

> scientists going to antarctica

I know someone who applied for a technical job based in antarctica and the interview process was much less arduous than the one described here.

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by pydry »

s_dev wrote: post #118
hluska wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s time for me to leave Ubuntu behind for good. I can’t support anyone who is this much of an asshole.

I can't read this comments as anything other than virtue signalling. You can call Mark Shuttleworth an asshole and still use Ubuntu without being a hypocrite.

Ive been feeling like Ubuntu has been failing technically for years and this thread is really helping explain why.

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Post by mattl »

joncrane wrote: post #53
LandR wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BYOD ?

They don't provide a laptop, AND your work computer must run Ubuntu.

Is it also a fully-remote company or do they have offices? My experience with Canonical has been pretty good from a customer perspective but I did have one sales guy call me with the most ridiculous levels of background noise.
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