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Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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>I don't understand the need to include "the types of websites you visit" in GPU driver telemetry. Do you visit Youtube and Twitch other streaming services often? Focus on video decoding. Do you visit sites that heavily utilize graphics[1]? Focus on 3D acceleration. There are reasons this data can be useful, especially since Intel wants to unfuck their otherwise imperially fucked drivers. Websites aren't just plain t…

Surely they don't need to monitor the websites you visit to get this information. They can see what the GPU is being asked to do, after all, which would tell them everything they need to know.

I've noticed an influx of awful takes that seem like astroturfing like the one you replied to... Anyway, if you open task manager, they show you what the GPU is doing https://imgur.com/a/gM1pgoI

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Great!

I want Intel to improve the driver stack I use on my hardware, and if information how I use their graphics stack is useful for that, cool. I continue on my usual usage, and Intel gets data on how to improve the experience for free.

How does anyone expect software to improve if nobody gives feedback? Ya'll know those website surveys, bug report apps in GPU control panels? If people used those, maybe secret telemetry wouldn't be required. It's easier to complain vaguely online in random communities.

Data collection isn't going away. Nor is it inherently harmful, unless you feed into the idea you're intentionally using hostile hardware and software for some reason.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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These are really niche issues and most people aren't even aware, let alone care about this. The only real solution to this is some kind of legislation that makes it difficult to carry on with business as usual. I wonder how this data collection squares with GDPR?

> The only real solution to this is some kind of legislation that makes it difficult to carry on with business as usual. I have watched the voluntary full body scans at TSA checkpoints for years and have concluded people do not care to opt out of any data collection. The people don't care, or how many people do you see opting out of full body scans at TSA? People gleefully pose for TSA's new and voluntary facial reco…

Ha! I get so much shit from my partner because I refuse to go through those scanners.

I don't make a big scene about it, but it's fun to note how much social pressure there is to just follow.

Most Airports are actually totally fine with the opt-out, except the British ones for some reason. "You won't always be able to opt out y'know" - yes mate, but then I probably won't fly anymore.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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To be fair, websites can also contain games and other stuff that might use a GPU.

Hardware accelerated video decoding for Youtube, Twitch, etc. for a very mundane example.

the category of a website (out of 30 possible categories??) seems orthogonal to whether or not it had embedded video or webgl, which should be pretty trivial to detect from GPU activity without knowing anything about the contents of the page that contains it.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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This is the role of benchmark suites and top 500 lists.

I would hope they are looking well pat the top 500, top 5,000 or 50,000 perhaps but then the bottom of larger lists also vary more. I think we can all agree the most likely explanation isn’t so flattering here, but it’s possible they really are trying to model the real world accurately in their test environment.

> I would hope they are looking well pat the top 500, top 5,000 or 50,000 perhaps but then the bottom of larger lists also vary more.

How are they going to do that if they only know the website category? Conveniently useful for marketing, though.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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All the more reason to avoid Windows I guess. MS is busy crippling the user experience in exchange for short-term profits and now this. I'm glad Linux has good driver support and maintainers who would say no to BS like this.

Lmao. Anyone who cares about this likely isn't using Windows to begin with, and has already fallen into some Parabola Trisquel rabbit hole.

Microsoft isn't crippling their user experience considering that doesn't benefit them; it's bad-actors cultivating that idea to push people on less-secure platforms, and/or naive Arch Linux first-time installer bros that want to push the idea of a worst desktop experience everywhere for no deep reason.

Microsoft doing whatever they're doing to Windows benefits the average person who otherwise isn't going to deep lengths to improve their security and experience. I want more people to be as-secure as possible considering they'll become bot net contributors otherwise, or leak data that I share with them in some manner.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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The problem is that the driver is closed-source. Even if the driver sent data in a format which is easily inspectable by user, and with only benign-looking data, it would be really hard to prove that something nefarious and underhanded is not being sent instead under that guise.

How is that a problem? Nobody is reviewing open-source driver code aside from the people actually working on improving it.

Also lmao; do you really believe Intel is going to sabotage their own platform? If you're doing something so "nefarious and underhanded" on your computer for that to be a concern, you likely have no reason to be concerned since you should be using a platform and OS that makes this a non-issue. Only bad-actors would be concerned and raise this as a point.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are really niche issues and most people aren't even aware, let alone care about this. The only real solution to this is some kind of legislation that makes it difficult to carry on with business as usual. I wonder how this data collection squares with GDPR?

> The only real solution to this is some kind of legislation that makes it difficult to carry on with business as usual. I have watched the voluntary full body scans at TSA checkpoints for years and have concluded people do not care to opt out of any data collection. The people don't care, or how many people do you see opting out of full body scans at TSA? People gleefully pose for TSA's new and voluntary facial reco…

> how many people do you see opting out of full body scans at TSA

They're all in the pre-check line.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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This might actually be a good thing. For the longest time, very few people cared about privacy issues, which is why we live in a privacy hellscape today. If AI fears can motivate people to start taking privacy issues seriously, then we might actually see some strong privacy legislation, or more privacy-focused businesses to meet new demand. (or maybe I'm just being overly optimistic)

I'm still holding out from the days when basically everyone on the internet understood you shouldn't post intimate details about your life online (the age before social ~~cancer~~ media). I long for a return to common sense. Maybe AI will do the trick, but I doubt it. Plenty of people are happy with behavioral prediction if it means convenience without caring about the implications.

I agree.

That said, there's a huge difference between voluntarily offering up personal data in a public forum and having personal data extracted without your consent.

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