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Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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Many people with families, or even just DINKS, would opt for private offices. Unless you've got a giant home with private space, working at the same time and while your home life goes on around you is pretty bad.

My home isn't huge, just a raised ranch. But I was able to build a soundproofed office in a corner of my basement and it's worked like a charm.

I was in an airport a few weeks ago and saw a new array of soundproof "phone" booths fitted with laptop stands and high-output lighting, and it occurred to me that I should have started a business building and selling those over the past 3 years.

Anyway, I'm thinking more about city dwellers who generally live in apartments.

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People who like WFH will never want to return to the office unless perhaps the office is a 5 minute walk from home (they may be forced to, but they won't want to). For many people the time and cost savings of avoiding a daily commute cannot be offset by a nicer office. Those who are happy to return to the office in general are those who do not like WFH and prefer more contacts and a change of scenery. A nicer office…

Yeah, no way I can afford to move closer to work when condos/houses nearby are 1.5 million. I will continue to work from home or they can find someone else. I don't mind the office, I do mind the 2 hours lost from my day, 5 days a week.

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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Open floorplans are especially problematic if your team handles any mix of development & operational tasks. Wall Street tech it's pretty typical to do your own SRE/L3 and honestly even L2/L1. Everything from business user "hey how do I.." customer service questions down to "the server is on fire, alerts are coming in .. ". Open floorplans mean even if you have an agreed PagerDuty type rotation, everyone gets sucked i…

Is that a bad thing? Since we started WFH, I’ve heard a lot of stories of oncalls spending an hour on things that could have been handled in 5 seconds if the right person had gotten sucked in on the way back from coffee. “Oh, I recognize this bug from two years ago, here’s what you gotta do.” “That customer’s symptoms are impossible, ask for more details on how they’re doing suchandsuch because they must be leaving s…

What you describe is a completely different problem which happens to (poorly, inconsistently and costly) happens to sometimes get solved by open office space.

Having proper knowledge bases and procedures, including how the ask "the team"/seniors "ad-hoc" questions and get feedback reasonable fast is what you want to have to solve that problems IMHO. Because that also tends to work if e.g. some people are sick or gone (knowledge bases) or can't come to the office (e.g. sick kids at home).

Through most important I would say is that communication in remote work is very different to office work and "just throwing slack into the mix" and doing the rest like before isn't going to cut it.

And yes that needs proper tooling, too and yes most of the tooling marked for this purpose today is .... pretty bad, sometimes utter garbage creating more work then they save time. Similar the part of procedures is often completely ignored, too.

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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My favorite story on this thread is that during the hybrid period, GS CEO threw a fit when out in the Hamptons because some analyst (fairly junior role almost at the bottom) had the balls to go introduce themselves during a workday lunch at a restaurant. He couldn't articulate a specific, valid complaint like "I was out at a client lunch and they were goofing off" or "I was on a vacation day while they were supposed…

This example is a stark reminder that the complaints are most often not about details but about class . The CEO was upset others were allowed to perform as if they were of the same class. It’s always class when one boils it down, imho.

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Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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Why not both?

I had a boss who was a VP in sales. His philosophy was "On the days I go in late, I make up for it by leaving early".

I'm guessing that sales is pretty different from typical software dev, in the sense that sales productivity is very measurable.

That probably sidesteps a lot of the guesswork about what makes a person most productive.

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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People who like WFH will never want to return to the office unless perhaps the office is a 5 minute walk from home (they may be forced to, but they won't want to). For many people the time and cost savings of avoiding a daily commute cannot be offset by a nicer office. Those who are happy to return to the office in general are those who do not like WFH and prefer more contacts and a change of scenery. A nicer office…

Respectfully, this is an example of rigid thinking that isn't productive or accurate.

Apply marginal thinking the way economists do. People's propensity to return to the office falls on a spectrum ranging from 0 ( the people who are already back in their cubicles ) to 9 ( "You'll need a SWAT team to get me back to the office" ).

A 5 on that scale is a marginal worker. Provide an incentive for them to return, like a nice office, and they become a 4 and return to the office. Now give a nice office to a population of 1000 workers who are distributed evenly over the above spectrum. They all move down by 1, and about 1/10th of them return to the office.

Saying "People who like WFH will never want to return to the office" is only true of the 8's and 9's, not of the marginal worker. They are the ones who respond to incentives.

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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People need to stop trying to make things return to the original office model. Employees have realised we are equally as effective working from home and simply do not want to waste 2+ UNPAID hours of every day travelling to a corporate building for the sake of it. Nor do people want to spend £10+ a day on food and drinks which they have in their fridge, at home. Then there is also the social pressure of having to go…

It’s over. You WILL take showers in the morning. You WILL wash your clothes. You WILL commute to the office. You WILL chat with your colleagues at breaks. And you WILL be happy.

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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Humans have only been working in offices since the industrial revolution, before that it was nearly all WFH. WFH is our natural state.

This wasn’t true for any kind of collaborative work requiring physical presence.

It was true when "industry" was in the first floor of your house or two houses down on the estate/plantation. This was not that long ago. If you visit historic sites from the 1800s it was extremely common to find workshops among the servant housing. Not only for the estate, but for export to the local community.

Long commutes aren't practical when the roads are bad and the fastest mode of personal transportation is a horse.

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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Being a level-1 helpdesk tech I never got to work from home as my job requires hands on work with servers, swapping drives, plugging in cables, etc. I haven't seen my coworker in 3 years though. We like to joke that he finally ditched the buzz cut and grew it out like Fabio

Re: Want employees to return to the office? Then give each one an office

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8 years, 2 different jobs, of my career have been WFH, exclusively because I was remote. Each time, I thought it as the coolest thing at first, and came to loathe it over time. I tried many of the techniques you’re supposed to (breaks on the hour, dedicated space, put shoes on, etc). But I found that over time, what emerged was that I was working half time all the time. Work and other activities just blurred and I was half present for everything (family, work, faith, sleep, recreation, etc). Advocates are probably just better than me at compartmentalizing. Though I found that many of my also work from home peers seemed to just be skating along as well. I can’t say that everyone falls into the pitfalls, but I can also state that I know I am not alone.

In the late 90s, I was an early adopter of XP. Pair programming and borg like unity seemed really cool. I had a set of motivated peers. We actually had to get lots of special permissions and suffer raised eyebrows to take down some of the cubicle walls on our own time to create a more open collaborative work space. This was really cool at first. Over time, as the makeup of the team morphed, it became less so. What had been open tables of people working side by side, morphed into everyone sitting around the edge facing outwards.

Now days I’m working in a larger lab with two of us as permanent residents and two others that sit in there with us sometimes. My commute to work involves two lights and a seven minute drive to work. I’ve been given the opportunity to occupy a soon to be vacant solo office across the hall and I’ll be jumping on that. Our lab has become a constant cross roads of visiting, much of it not even remotely work related.

After these various experiences, I’ve concluded a couple of things in the final legs of my career journey (I’ve got around 15 years left).

1. Individuals will absolutley work and thrive better if you give each one their own space where their own identity and choices are manifest — this means real walls, a closeable door, the ability to play music (quietly) if they want, sunlight, and plants if desired. I have especially observed this with interns and new hires. They need their own little den to hide in. Most people will appreciate it (in the long run) if the space is actually small enough that while they can express some autonomy/agency, it’s not a large enough space for others to corner you and talk to you because they’re avoiding work.

2. Collaborative desire comes from within a person. When it manifests, you should absolutely enable and support it, but never compulse it. The company will realize cool 1 + 1 > 2 effects if they do. Providing open spaces with tables, boards, at near convenience to said office spaces is a great thing. But you can’t force people into those spaces. “The fishbowls will continue until creativity and innovation thrive” is synonymous with “the meetings will continue until morale improves.”

3. I recognize the above is the least efficient from a logistics point of view for the office planners. Not just one space per employee, but two? And how do you scale it with people coming to/leaving from organizations? I honestly don’t know. I’ve been told for years “how hard can it be? It’s just software?” So to you office planners, I’m passing on this encouragement “how hard can it be? It’s just peopleware?”

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