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UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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Re: UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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Just pay them a million a year each, why should they be anything short of rich?

Even if the company could afford to pay the drivers $170k/yr without increasing shipping costs, they're still going to increase shipping costs. So this just gets passed on to the consumer rather than the company, much like tipping. And at a time when discretionary spending is down tremendous, this just means more people will get laid off. I will eat my hat if there are no mass layoffs in the next year.

Re: UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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that's more what I'm payed as a senior dev ... maybe I should change career

Does your sense of your senior dev pay include considering your benefits? Back when I was an underpaid junior dev, I once had my employer go and attempt to convince the software devs that we were making money than we thought via a statement outlining benefits. It more than doubled my salary... but most of it would come with any software job that wasn't self-employment/contract work.

Re: UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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Great news if you are lucky enough to drive for UPS. I would be envious if I was a driver for another firm. The average salary for a delivery driver in the US is around $50K. But maybe this will pull up wages for the rest of the industry.

Re: UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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post #4

that's more what I'm payed as a senior dev ... maybe I should change career

The company might be doing some funny math with the value of the benefits: $50,000. That could include things you might never use, like IVF assistance.

My wife is a teacher in NC. We are on her insurance with the state health plan for a whole family. We pay $700/mo for our portion on the 80/20 plan.

I would say they likely do pay $30k+ per employee and 50k isnt a big stretch when you count every benefit as you stated.

https://www.shpnc.org/documents/open-enrollment-documents/sh...

Re: UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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that's more what I'm payed as a senior dev ... maybe I should change career

Or participate in collective bargaining!

Just a side thought, but how do the collective bargaining protections work in the age of automation? Basically like robots as scabs or permanent replacements?

Re: UPS driver pay and benefits deal in US to be worth $170k a year, firm says

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Just pay them a million a year each, why should they be anything short of rich? Even if the company could afford to pay the drivers $170k/yr without increasing shipping costs, they're still going to increase shipping costs. So this just gets passed on to the consumer rather than the company, much like tipping. And at a time when discretionary spending is down tremendous, this just means more people will get laid off.…

It depends on what you mean by mass layoffs. In post-Jack Welch America, there is ALWAYS some company doing massive RIFs. Often when they're already profitable.

I think your hat and your stomach are safe.

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