What is the thought process that goes into thinking such a thing is a good idea, then proposing it, arguing for it, and then it being approved (presumably) by product managers and executives? It's just a downward spiral at this point as each new generation of software and each new year brings a worse and worse privacy default with even more self-justification and half-assed anonymization. Drivers need to know website…
Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
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Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#52I don't understand the need to include "the types of websites you visit" in GPU driver telemetry. AMD's telemetry doesn't seem to include that: https://www.amd.com/en/legal/privacy/user-experience-program... I couldn't figure out what telemetry is collected by Nvidia.
>I don't understand the need to include "the types of websites you visit" in GPU driver telemetry. Do you visit Youtube and Twitch other streaming services often? Focus on video decoding. Do you visit sites that heavily utilize graphics[1]? Focus on 3D acceleration. There are reasons this data can be useful, especially since Intel wants to unfuck their otherwise imperially fucked drivers. Websites aren't just plain t…
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's cynical is saying that there is no value in knowing if users watch video in browsers and comparing it to eyeball tracking.
Though that wasn't their statement. Of course there's value in it. The question is if it's value for the customer or just plain abuse.
The problem is, of course, that products seldom improve with use of telemetry, but that is beside the point.
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think Intel needs telemetry to know their customers use Youtube and Twitch.
The ratios might be important if they want to optimize battery life, performance, and video quality.
I get playing devil's advocate, but come on...
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#55I know that Nvidia does extensive telemetry with GeForce Experience (the optional but heavily pushed companion software to the driver) but do they do it in the driver package also? The article makes no distinction and says there's no opt out. I thought choosing to not install GeForce Experience was the opt out (though that is not communicated to you at all during installation).
* https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstal...
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#56One question I don't see asked in the various threads covering this: why does windows freely offer such data? At least Intel does give you an opt out (should be opt in really), but other applications can freely collect this data without you knowing. Windows needs to have much better control maybe a "telemetry" setting to control each apps access to the data, but that would most likely require some serious reengineeri…
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#57A terrifying side-effect of AI is that everything is now potential "training data" and there's financial incentive to vacuum up any and all possible data. The situation on Windows is much worse than Chrome extensions (which have been attempting this for awhile) because of the near non-existent permission limits on Windows. I was shocked to learn just yesterday that Nvidia drivers were doing this. It feels extremely g…
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#58What is the thought process that goes into thinking such a thing is a good idea, then proposing it, arguing for it, and then it being approved (presumably) by product managers and executives? It's just a downward spiral at this point as each new generation of software and each new year brings a worse and worse privacy default with even more self-justification and half-assed anonymization. Drivers need to know website…
Knowing what websites people visit and for how long isn’t unreasonable if you want to create a test that mimics how a GPU gets used in practice. Compare your GPU’s performance with competitors across the top X popular websites looking for outliers. Then start optimizing and retest while regularly updating that list with new data in case something starts to become popular. They could get this kind of data from a third…
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#59What is the thought process that goes into thinking such a thing is a good idea, then proposing it, arguing for it, and then it being approved (presumably) by product managers and executives? It's just a downward spiral at this point as each new generation of software and each new year brings a worse and worse privacy default with even more self-justification and half-assed anonymization. Drivers need to know website…
Have you ever worked in a big company? Appeals to ethics or even common sense won't get you very far. On the other hand, just doing what you're told is expected and rewarded. Like the Emperor's New Clothes. You either play along with the narrow-minded, often cultish, pursuit of whatever is deemed good for "the business", or you leave.
Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'
#60On Linux, can I run drivers inside a sandbox already?