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Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Re: Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Post by vineyardmike »

gochi wrote: post #3

Seems very limited for an IDE. Only certain web frameworks permitted for now, python and go support is still not there, and Flutter is the only choice for cross-platform apps. Android and iOS simulators aren't built in yet either. Given the blog title and the blog itself, I was expecting a bit more and something less piecemeal rather than what is actually presented here which is an online IDE mixed with google AI.

Alternatively, they make IDEs and so does everyone else. They even have a web IDE powered by VSCode as an offering in GCP, like GitHub codespace.

This seems tailored to being good at doing front end stuff (multiple emulators, multi-browser previews, etc). Which is probably a problem google deals with themselves.

Re: Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Post by vineyardmike »

jamil7 wrote: post #31

> paired with the universal access that comes with being hosted in the cloud, in a datacenter near you. How is a locked down vm, that I don’t control, “near me” more convenient than the fast, portable computer in front of me that I can build apps anywhere on, even when not networked?

You don’t need a fast computer near you? Plenty of people like this model of development.

I personally love being able to compile massive projects while sitting in front of a MacBook Air or iPad. It sips battery while churning away at a data center elsewhere.

Re: Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Post by andomizeazzz662 »

smokel wrote: post #49
dahwolf wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, Android app development is why I added the non-core part. Try as I might, I can't deny that it's a vast (business) ecosystem. Too big too fail and part of the money printer. I wouldn't call IDX core because it doesn't solve the problem the article opens with. It says that modern app stacks are complex. IDX doesn't solve that at all. There's the same amount of moving parts behind the curtain, it's just that st…

It took me some time to understand your cynicism. I personally find it easier to believe that there is a spark of joy in the minds of those working on this, and that they are not only in it for milking our code to train an AI overlord to accomplish, what exactly? We can certainly agree that to "navigate an endless sea of complexity" in getting an app "from zero to production" is no fun. Firebase is in the business of…

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Re: Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Post by [deleted] »

smokel wrote: post #35

The ignorance of many comments in this thread astound me. Sure, setting up a development environment for your small pet project is easy. But as soon as you start working on software that has been maintained for a few years, dependencies start to grow. A typical old Java project depends on Gradle (or Maven, or even Ant), an outdated JDK, Eclipse, Protobuf tooling, XML tooling, custom tooling, you name it. Next, your p…

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Re: Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Post by andsoitis »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #15

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Re: Project IDX: An experiment to improve full-stack, multiplatform app development

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

vineyardmike wrote: post #51
gochi wrote: post #3

Seems very limited for an IDE. Only certain web frameworks permitted for now, python and go support is still not there, and Flutter is the only choice for cross-platform apps. Android and iOS simulators aren't built in yet either. Given the blog title and the blog itself, I was expecting a bit more and something less piecemeal rather than what is actually presented here which is an online IDE mixed with google AI.

Alternatively, they make IDEs and so does everyone else. They even have a web IDE powered by VSCode as an offering in GCP, like GitHub codespace. This seems tailored to being good at doing front end stuff (multiple emulators, multi-browser previews, etc). Which is probably a problem google deals with themselves.

GCP's on-boarding process, especially setting up local entertainment, used to be a little complex¹. Maybe having the whole IDE in the cloud would simplify it. It would be cool to have ”Bard” create a role based on my code or refresh an expired token.

1. A bunch of really smart folks asked me for help with it on a few different projects. I tried GCP's VSCode extension but it wasn't particularly easy to use.

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