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FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by fasterik »

roody15 wrote: post #30

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Nobody is forcing anybody to take depression medication. The fact that it's there for people who are suffering and feel that they need it is a good thing. True, depression is a complex phenomenon, and I don't think any good doctor or psychiatrist would deny that you need social and emotional support in addition to medication. However, antidepressants seem to be a useful tool for a lot of people to manage the symptoms to a point where they can function well enough to make the more holistic changes. If you've ever experienced depression, you'll know how hard it can be to just get out of bed, go grocery shopping, or do light exercise. Add that on top of the stresses of being a new parent and I imagine it can be extremely difficult.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by kstrauser »

gillytech wrote: post #32
kstrauser wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, fine, I'll bite. How have they been lying about AIDS?

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For anyone else following along, all of the above is factually wrong.

Emtricitabine/tenofovir is used to treat and prevent HIV infections, and is on WHO's list of essential medicines. Literally millions of people are using it to control their HIV infections and prevent it from developing into AIDS. It can be bought on online pharmacies for $15 per month, so it's not exactly a trillion dollar drug.

It's 100% certain that HIV causes AIDS. This is uncontroversial. It's true that scientists continue to learn more about how it infects humans and causes disease. This is why treatments are so much more effective than they use to be.

There are 2 other known human disease causing retroviruses, HTLV-I and HTLV-II: https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/retrovirus/index.htm....

The person is quoting conspiracy theory talking points that are known, provably, untrue.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by standardUser »

roody15 wrote: post #30

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I don't see it. We know people in the past were much more willing to suffer quietly, if not required to do so. And we know the damage that causes down the line. What I see is another in the endless examples of society finally letting people out of the hype-narrow boxes of acceptable behaviour and experiences and listening to what they have to say as who they are, not what cruel and ancient conventions demand they should be.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by sixo »

nocoiner wrote: post #42
roody15 wrote: post #30

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Ah yes. The good ol’ “Well, have you tried not being depressed?” Works every time.

OP said nothing of the sort. They clearly described a dysfunction in the surrounding support structure, not the mother herself.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by standardUser »

snvzz wrote: post #18

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In humanity's history, people were routinely ostracized, beaten and killed for deviating even slightly from a strict set of norms, including family members. Imagine you are a new mother and are deeply depressed, or worse yet even have hateful thoughts towards your child. How do you think fiercely patriarchal societies would deal with it if you spoke out? Or your husband/boss? Just because people are more outspoken about their personal experiences now does not mean those experiences are some "sudden" phenomenon.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by jncfhnb »

sixo wrote: post #55
nocoiner wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes. The good ol’ “Well, have you tried not being depressed?” Works every time.

OP said nothing of the sort. They clearly described a dysfunction in the surrounding support structure, not the mother herself.

Yeah but like, fuck that. It’s not a duality of support structure fault or mother fault.

It can also be mother’s problem and nobodies fault.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by patmorgan23 »

nocoiner wrote: post #42
roody15 wrote: post #30

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Ah yes. The good ol’ “Well, have you tried not being depressed?” Works every time.

That's not what they're saying at all.

They're saying we should make sure expecting mothers are well informed on the effects pregnancy and birth has on their body. Not give them unrealistic expectations that pregnancy will be easy and that everything will go back to being the same after they give birth. A miss match in expectations can help drive someone into depression. Prevention by supporting new mother's.

I think they go too far though. Everyone's situation is different not all depression is preventable, many people need SSRI and other oral treatments. But let's not throw strawmen around.

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by yieldcrv »

gillytech wrote: post #27
yieldcrv wrote: post #22

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I like how you start of with something substantiated, and then follow it with something fringe and unsubstantiated Please tell me you’re at least selling coffee mugs to your flock

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I'm actually curious about the AIDS one, which part is the lie out of curiosity? The existence of acquired immunodefiency from HIV? something else?

Re: FDA Approves First Oral Treatment for Postpartum Depression

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Post by bob_theslob646 »

quacked wrote: post #26
snvzz wrote: post #18

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Postpartum depression is much lower in places where mothers get a lot of sunshine, live among numerous family and friends, eat whole diets, walk a lot, and don't suddenly go from rat-race identity-capturing careers to soloing a screaming infant inside all day. I'm not saying PPD is non-existent in those societies, just that in western societies like the US I'm more surprised when new mothers don't get PPD than I am w…

>Postpartum depression is much lower in places where mothers get a lot of sunshine, live among numerous family and friends, eat whole diets, walk a lot, and don't suddenly go from rat-race identity-capturing careers to soloing a screaming infant inside all day.

Do you have a source for this?

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