Well, i think actually, perhaps a call for developers to refuse to participate in software patents, refuse to put your name on it, might be more effective.
Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
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Re: Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
#22This goes a bit far. I am sure there are fine folks at Yahoo who have achieved seniority that they need to support their families. They may object to how the company does business, but can't just walk away job. Is the hiring situation in the Valley really so intense that anyone could find new work in 60 days?
Any talented engineer, yes. So either you're soulless and refuse to leave, or you're incompetent and you're scared to leave. Either way, not hiring them seems fair to me.
The CEO of Yammer is free to hire whomever he wants, but saying you're either soulless or incompetent is a false dichotomy. Just because your employer's use of patents isn't the most important factor in your life doesn't make you soulless. There are much more controversial topics on which reasonable people disagree.
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#23I wonder if Yammer could issue some sort of legal covenant not to sue that would be binding even if they sold the company or the patent changed hands some other way? It looks like Yammer's CEO filed a patent as recently as last August: http://www.google.com/patents?id=D-r_AQAAEBAJ&printsec=f...
If you want to bind yourself from suing people who violate the patent just give the patent to public domain, it will have the same effect.
IANAL but people who Are A Lawyer seem to feel that there's no legally meaningful way to place anything in the public domain, currently, at least in the United States.
Re: Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
#24Does Yammer have similar policies against hiring people from Apple, Microsoft, or Oracle? This reeks of publicity-seeking.
Also this is the first time I've heard of Yammer, while Yahoo is big and old. Is this even a likely occurrence? Have they had or hired many or any yahoo ex employees in the past?
Headline read to me "Small no name startup says they won't hire employees from huge company that's also never heard of them"
Seems all about the publicity.
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Re: Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
#26If everybody would quit because of some (perceived) wrongdoing on part of their employer, most businesses probably would have to close up for lack of employees.
Microsoft and Apple would be history, just for starters.
Y'know, publicly calling on people to quit their jobs based upon one's own political opinions is really unprofessional and if this guy really said that, it says more about him than Yahoo.
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#27I thought his statement was over the top at first, but after I read the article I say good for him for standing up for what he thinks is right. We all know that this patent nonsense has got to stop. There is nobody building any app anywhere that does not violate some patent. The only way we are surviving is by being under the radar. Let's not forgive Yahoo for this like we forgave Amazon. I'm especially pissed at Yah…
But there is a difference between punishing the company management that made the decision and employees that had nothing to do with the decision.
Re: Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
#28Does Yammer have similar policies against hiring people from Apple, Microsoft, or Oracle? This reeks of publicity-seeking.
Also this is the first time I've heard of Yammer, while Yahoo is big and old. Is this even a likely occurrence? Have they had or hired many or any yahoo ex employees in the past? Headline read to me "Small no name startup says they won't hire employees from huge company that's also never heard of them" Seems all about the publicity.
That's just you though. Yammer is a pretty well established company. Not large compared to Yahoo, but not a tiny unknown one either.
Re: Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
#29This goes a bit far. I am sure there are fine folks at Yahoo who have achieved seniority that they need to support their families. They may object to how the company does business, but can't just walk away job. Is the hiring situation in the Valley really so intense that anyone could find new work in 60 days?
Any talented engineer, yes. So either you're soulless and refuse to leave, or you're incompetent and you're scared to leave. Either way, not hiring them seems fair to me.
Any talented engineer under the age of 30, yes. (Corollary: any engineer over the age of 30 has no talent in the eyes of the Valley)
Re: Yammer CEO won't hire anyone from Yahoo who doesn't quit in next 60 days
#30If you only decide to stop hiring Yahoo engineers now, you're a bit too late to the game. Anyone who's still at Yahoo1 today is probably someone who hasn't been able to find a job elsewhere. I have interviewed a lot of Yahoo! engineers these past years and it's been an unmitigated (as in 100% rejection) disaster.
This comment is correct, but I would make an exception for the fine folk in Yahoo Research.