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Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Post by meinmissoula » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 2:54 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #40

brutusborn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was the cops, I would start a skunk works style database of recurring offenders, arrests, judicial decisions and outcomes. Once you have a good number of smoking-gun cases of repeat violent offenders due to DA inaction, then leak it to the media. Name and shame the DA, make sure the voters / people in power know where the weak link is and give them a better alternative. Cops get apathetic because their arrests h…

The people that might put in unpaid extra sweat and tears to do that have been scared away from the profession due to media storms that occur on those 1 in 1000 poor interactions that are filmed on 3 hours of sleep.

This seems like a concerning level of charity being given to cops who ruin people's lives.

Would you accept a world in which "1 in 1000" planes crashed because the pilot was on 3 hours of sleep?

There should be a media storm every time a police officer abuses someone, we should all collectively be outraged. A functioning society has to start with the front-line enforcers being responsible and trustworthy.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Post by ForgottenPwd » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 3:32 PM UTC

gensym wrote: post #15

akomtu wrote: post #4

The state is afraid of mushrooms because they let users detach from the groupthink that guides the people from birth to death. The groupthink is made of many polished thought-circuits that compel an individual to do certain things, such as buying a nice car, working an office job, going to vacation on hawaii, watching tv, and so on.

> going to vacation on hawaii Most of the dudes I know plenty of dudes who partake in psilocybin also really like going to Hawaii. Maybe they didn't get stuff good enough to break that particular thought-circuit? What do you think?

Unless you've met the machine elves, can you really say you've had a psychedelic experience?

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Post by mensetmanusman » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

meinmissoula wrote: post #41

mensetmanusman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people that might put in unpaid extra sweat and tears to do that have been scared away from the profession due to media storms that occur on those 1 in 1000 poor interactions that are filmed on 3 hours of sleep.

This seems like a concerning level of charity being given to cops who ruin people's lives. Would you accept a world in which "1 in 1000" planes crashed because the pilot was on 3 hours of sleep? There should be a media storm every time a police officer abuses someone, we should all collectively be outraged. A functioning society has to start with the front-line enforcers being responsible and trustworthy.

Planes are about 1 in 10,000,000 in terms of accidents.

There are about 1,000,000 police, so I guess 2 bad police events per month would be equivalent?

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

mike_d wrote: post #19

ruined wrote: post #8

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having a private religious experience with a mushroom doesn't deny anyone legislative representation

Laws exist to create a civil society. You shouldn't get an exemption because you have an imaginary friend.

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Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Post by ruined » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:18 PM UTC

androidbishop wrote: post #33

pempem wrote: post #30

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LOL I agree. Let's get the church to pay taxes and return public lands and then I'm happy to chat.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I actually endorse these ideas

in the meantime, let's get something positive out of the contradiction

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Post by brutusborn » Wed, Aug 09, 2023, 4:52 AM UTC

meinmissoula wrote: post #41

mensetmanusman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people that might put in unpaid extra sweat and tears to do that have been scared away from the profession due to media storms that occur on those 1 in 1000 poor interactions that are filmed on 3 hours of sleep.

This seems like a concerning level of charity being given to cops who ruin people's lives. Would you accept a world in which "1 in 1000" planes crashed because the pilot was on 3 hours of sleep? There should be a media storm every time a police officer abuses someone, we should all collectively be outraged. A functioning society has to start with the front-line enforcers being responsible and trustworthy.

He’s not being charitable to cops who abuse their power, he’s pointing out that good cops receive backlash due to the actions of bad cops.

Being outraged at cases of abuse doesn’t mean you have to stop empathising with the difficult job that most cops have.

Reminds me of this quote: “almost everything in the world is broken and almost no one is evil.” Don’t let your anger at evil people make you reflexively think badly of their colleagues. Focus on your love of humanity rather than your hatred of authority.