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Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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actionfromafar wrote: post #329
throw-ru-938 wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, Western _institutions_ do seem to dislike us, cf. the Czech president's infamous "WW2 Japanese Americans" comment [ https://www.janm.org/press/release/janm-decries-remarks-czec... ].

I think there is more hatred in former Warzaw Pact countries. But overall, I have seen very little in the way of demonising russian s , especially those already outside of Russia.

I know the attitudes eg. Chinese people (even if from TW, not all westerners can tell) sometimes encounter and I think Russians are better off

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Post by throwaway290 »

holoduke wrote: post #307
throwaway290 wrote: post #273

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As a Russian I'd say this guy lives in some other country. Probably imaginary. Based on how little reality there is in the comment I would not believe comments about airplane brakes either... Not a single person I know much less their kids has "foreign crypto virtual cards" etc. Ofc even if they had they would be locked out of transacting with any serious business that doesn't take crypto. The exodus is real, ask Arm…

Sorry but i have to comment. Hackernews should not be political but still. In Russia there is currently an all time high support from the current regime. The small moscow bubble you are referring to isnt remotely representing the common Russians. Most of that bubble was anti regime before the war anyway. Braindrain? You know how many Indians and other nations are currently immigrating to Russia? Tech is booming right…

Btw regarding "unlimited Chinese funds" specifically, Russia gets less than even 1/10 of what China invests even in Kazakshtan for example.

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Post by tguvot »

piskov wrote: post #334
xp84 wrote: post #134

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For sure, they will be using half-butted homegrown (or made in those countries) clones, just like you would see in the Soviet era. It will lead to a gradual but increasing incidence of air disasters. Russian friends, please avoid flying if you can.

You’re talking like Russians are the people living in some Stone Age :-) “half-butted homegrown clones for parts”, my ass. How about an actual brand new twinjet airplane with carbon fibre reinforced polymer wing (consumes less fuel then Boeing/airbus alternatives) like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21

what is the production rate of MC-21 ?

SSJ For example (I read yesterday), was planned to build 24 this year. In first half an year they built 2 and plan was revised down to 6

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by don_esteban »

saiya-jin wrote: post #306
samtho wrote: post #256

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> or unless someone local can manufacture them to the correct specs This will likely happen except for the correct specs part. Sure, it will be manufactured to fit, but it likely won’t be able to be made to the same standard as the official Boeing part. The impact of this could be absolutely nothing, or maybe Aeroflot planes just end up on runway excursions more often. It could also lead to catastrophic failure and s…

Aeroflot was widely regarded as worst international airline (on par with say Nepal airlines but for very different reasons) way before any invasion started. Typical russian mentality and alcoholism is simply not a good match to highly structured and regulated environment of very complex machinery. Everybody I know tried hard when travelling from Europe to Asia to avoid using them, even when they were often the cheape…

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/Aeroflot-from-worlds...

Some regional Russian carriers were pretty bad, but Aeroflot was not.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by don_esteban »

dtgriscom wrote: post #198
barbazoo wrote: post #11

Take off and landing aside, can you properly control the aircraft on the ground without brakes? I'm thinking of stopping at hold short lines, at the gate, etc. How precise, responsive is reverse thrust in those cases? Or will they get picked up by those little cars and pulled right after landing?

I'm guessing that the vast majority of brake wear occurs during landings, so re-enabling them for taxiing and at the gate would still save a whole lot of pad.

This. Breaking from 30km/h wears brakes much less than from full landing speed. A policy of just using thrust reversers more generously would save quite a bit of brake life.

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Post by kakwa_ »

nielsole wrote: post #340
kakwa_ wrote: post #315

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Iran (Iran Air and Mahan Air) is flying mostly Airbus and Boeing, but really, really, really old planes. Given these are rather old planes, with a wide international distribution, I'm kind of expecting it's not too hard to find second hand parts cannibalized from retired planes and coming from neutral countries. They were even able to smuggle parts to keep some of their F14s flying. In comparison, civilian airliner p…

TIL Iran has 40 F14 fighters. I would have assumed the US to keep closer tabs on their hardware, but they got exported pre-revolution.

Indeed, Iran got their F14s during the Shah era.

But what is fascinating is how Islamic Iran managed to keep these planes flying, including through an 8 years long war, despite the embargo and the lack of parts.

Through back-channel deals with Israel or even the US (Iran-Contra deal) or good old smuggling exploiting mismanaged military surplus handling in US, plus domestic reverse engineering & production, the Iranians were incredibly resourceful in getting parts for these birds.

In comparison, finding parts for civilian planes is a piece of cake.

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

piskov wrote: post #332
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #246

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About the foreign virtual cards, can you please give me a link where I can get one? Being searching for a long time, only found scam. All legitimate ones require proof of address.

If you’re Russian, you will easily find the instructions how to get one If you’re not, then it’s prudent not to tell any actual “names”.

In other words, there are none. Just common Russian lies.

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Post by piskov »

throwaway290 wrote: post #347
piskov wrote: post #331

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> crypto virtual card The cards are not “crypto” — they are very much ordinary virtual (or even physical) visa/mastercard ones. You use p2p crypto to top-up them with real dollars from RUB. It takes around 5 minutes to get a virtual Visa card. And if you want to get a physical one (for traveling), there are a lot of countries (even NATO ones) where you can get one with no problem at all. > any serious business that d…

Turkey and others crack down on this regularly. Besides if you have the money to go to Turkey or pay extra to unscrupulous forwarders it means you are already well off, if the regime pays you well then good for you I guess. People in remote villages that supply new meat for the war don't have that luxury. They only have a TV that tells them everything is fine Yes even in Iran people manage to buy foreign goods and fi…

> Turkey and others crack down on this regularly

Yeah-yeah. That’s why Turkey launched direct rouble to lira payment app just a couple of days ago :-)

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/93267/

Not to mention number of banks in Turkey alone that have no problem opening accounts to Russians

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Post by everybodyknows »

alexey-salmin wrote: post #204

Planes don't stop with the reverse thrust, only slow down to 100-120km/h. If you use it a lower speed there's a real risk of lifting a piece of debris off the runway and sucking it into the engine intake. This is why we have to bother with pushback for jet aircrafts unlike the convenient powerback we have for props.

The pilot of the Boeing 727 (maybe 737) I was in used reverser-only pushback from a gate, 20-30 years ago. This was in the USA. Highly memorable.

However, no doubt much easier to keep a gate area clean, as opposed to a whole runway.

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Post by sesuximo »

nocoiner wrote: post #305
aeternum wrote: post #222

For those wondering, this is what US/anti-Russia propaganda looks like.

Russian propaganda: “We must invade a sovereign nation to eliminate the Nazis and implement a program of de-Nazification through vigorous ethnic cleansing!” US propaganda: “Russian airlines are unreliable and are making some questionable maintenance decisions.”

As an interesting aside, the word nazi means something slightly different to a Russian audience vs an American one. Or at least so I have read. I live in the US, and Nazi makes me think of an anti-Semitic 1940s German. But in Russia it seems to mean threat to Russians/oppressor.

https://jordanrussiacenter.org/news/what-russians-think-when...

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