All the people in the study already had type 2 diabetes. What would have been useful is to compare their breakfast skipping and late night eating habits (slightly more than half of the people in the study did these activities) against the habits of the general population? As it is, this study tells us nothing.
Effect of Breakfast Skipping and Late Night Eating on BMI with Type 2 Diabetes
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Re: Effect of Breakfast Skipping and Late Night Eating on BMI with Type 2 Diabetes
#32Would be interesting to see another study with people who do both breakfast skipping and skipping late-night eating.
When I was in my 30s I was a typical woefully sedentary "IT potato" with more than a few extra kilograms around the waist, but today in my early 40s I manage to stay slim and free from diabetes despite being just as sedentary, and I'm convinced that my intermittent fasting is contributing to it:
These days I wait with breakfast until around lunchtime, and I have my last meal for the day between 6 and 8 o'clock in the evening. That is, instead of the usual pattern of eating during nearly two thirds of the day (16 hours) and fasting (sleeping) during one third (8 hours) I've turned it around so that I fast two thirds of the day, while still consuming the same amount of calories.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
And BMI says nothing of body fat percentage Can have higher BMI and lower bodyfat I'm not convinced BMI is a useful metric
yeah... but the likelihood that you have a high BMI because you're just so jacked is low. It's not perfect, but it's a good metric.
It’s really not a good metric. It’s incredibly noisy. “Are you fat” isn’t something that needs a noisy metric. And it makes analyses messy when bmi is used as a measure of fatness.
Re: Effect of Breakfast Skipping and Late Night Eating on BMI with Type 2 Diabetes
#34lol when I was at my heaviest, I often skipped breakfast. I must have been an IF champ...people online would have been envious of my routine. i could have sold a diet book about it. as it turned out, this could be explained simply by the fact i had eaten so much for dinner and before bed that i was full in the morning from still digesting the food. meh.
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#35I can personally vouch for this study
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
And BMI says nothing of body fat percentage Can have higher BMI and lower bodyfat I'm not convinced BMI is a useful metric
yeah... but the likelihood that you have a high BMI because you're just so jacked is low. It's not perfect, but it's a good metric.
I'm firmly in the 'overweight' category based on BMI, at 15% bodyfat, and I wouldn't classify myself as jacked. I have a bit more lean muscle than most from cycling but definitely not a 'gym body'.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
And BMI says nothing of body fat percentage Can have higher BMI and lower bodyfat I'm not convinced BMI is a useful metric
Pretty much only true if you are a body builder or someone else with an unusual amount of muscle mass relative to your height. For the vast majority of people though BMI is fine.
There is little point of doing a study based on BMI when what you want is body fat. BMI is imperfect. It’s fine when you want to give people a quick metric for them to assess their fitness by themselves. People who are extremely fit with a high BMI already know they are extremely fit after all. It’s not fine when you want to analyse the effect of different life styles.
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#38They interviewed 310 ppl, calculated their BMI, then found out around half skip breakfast. That half had BMI a little higher than the rest. No discussion of what they eat. What a waste of time for everyone involved.
And BMI says nothing of body fat percentage Can have higher BMI and lower bodyfat I'm not convinced BMI is a useful metric
Why do people keep making this argument? It's a terrible argument.
BMI and body fat are extremely strongly correlated. People with a very high BMI are all obese or morbidly obese. And people with a very low BMI are almost all underweight. BMI is a very simple, easy to calculate and useful metric. It works across countries and across time.
BMI is just one metric. It doesn't tell you everything and knowing only the BMI of an individual isn't proof of anything. But average BMI is higher in Texas than Vietnam despite Texas having way more more bodybuilders. People in Texas have higher BMI because people in Texas are fatter. That's the truth. BMI denialism confounds me.
Re: Effect of Breakfast Skipping and Late Night Eating on BMI with Type 2 Diabetes
#39Would be interesting to see another study with people who do both breakfast skipping and skipping late-night eating. When I was in my 30s I was a typical woefully sedentary "IT potato" with more than a few extra kilograms around the waist, but today in my early 40s I manage to stay slim and free from diabetes despite being just as sedentary, and I'm convinced that my intermittent fasting is contributing to it: These…
I was pretty sure this is the normal way of intermittent fasting. Otherwise most people i know would almost be doing intermittent fasting all the time.
How did you eat before, if i may ask?
Re: Effect of Breakfast Skipping and Late Night Eating on BMI with Type 2 Diabetes
#40Would be interesting to see another study with people who do both breakfast skipping and skipping late-night eating. When I was in my 30s I was a typical woefully sedentary "IT potato" with more than a few extra kilograms around the waist, but today in my early 40s I manage to stay slim and free from diabetes despite being just as sedentary, and I'm convinced that my intermittent fasting is contributing to it: These…
For me, I was in good shape in my 30s. Then the weight started to creep on.
Now I've been having my first meal after lunch, exercising more by walking and snacking less. Too early to tell how it goes long term.
I'm trying to be a little flexible. So if it's 9am and I'm hungry, or I know I'm heading out the house for a busy morning, I'll eat fruit or vegetables. But no bread.