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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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You sort of do if you want to boot kernels on btrfs. Refind is an option, but not most of the other EFI bootloaders.

You put the kernel (built with efistub) directly onto the EFI partition - no boot loaded needed at all.

Can you point to read-only snapshots that way?

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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KDE has been getting progressively worse and less usable since 3.5.

So refreshing to see someone else who revels in the nostalgia of 3.5!

I believe the correct word is KNostalgia.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Show me one example where telemetry made software better.

Why would I have to? Concept is solid and stays on its own.

If the concept has had no benefits, then it is not solid and does not stay on its own.

Especially if you cannot think of a single example.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Linux is great! And, thanks to Steam, a lot of games wirk as well. Not all, but most. Ubuntu, I haven't tried anything else so far, is a charm on Lenovo hardware. Update wise, it is were Windows was a couple of years ago. Meaning there are random updates that just kill and break certain functions. Happened last week, everything was running fine, including steam, as it always did. Until an update managed to delete the…

It is unfortunate that people recommended Ubuntu as a starting distro for so long. It does too much. It will update things for you, or give you a pop-up to tell you to update. Updates happen all at once, rather than a little at a time, so you get these big dramatic updates with combinatorial bug explosions. Maybe the repos will be gone if you don’t update in time. Maybe your favorite packages have moved from apt to s…

> A rolling release distro like Arch would be a better first experience for most people I think.

Nah. Most people can't grok partitions or do the command line installs by hand. "Most people" aren't very technical, and even white collar office types will struggle.

Likewise they don't grok rolling updates and snap, they just get their updates and they restart once a month, just like on their windows box. That's enough, and once they get comfortable with the rest of the Ubanto env they can start thinkin about their Gentoo build from scratch.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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It is unfortunate that people recommended Ubuntu as a starting distro for so long. It does too much. It will update things for you, or give you a pop-up to tell you to update. Updates happen all at once, rather than a little at a time, so you get these big dramatic updates with combinatorial bug explosions. Maybe the repos will be gone if you don’t update in time. Maybe your favorite packages have moved from apt to s…

> A rolling release distro like Arch would be a better first experience for most people I think. Nah. Most people can't grok partitions or do the command line installs by hand. "Most people" aren't very technical, and even white collar office types will struggle. Likewise they don't grok rolling updates and snap, they just get their updates and they restart once a month, just like on their windows box. That's enough,…

I think most people barely are able to administrate their Windows laptops either, usually they just use them until they break and then buy a new one, and never really configure or fix anything.

Phones, with their app stores, are sort of like rolling release with automatic updates, right?

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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I think they must mean legacy visual studio, rather than VSCode. VSCode is of course very portable. It also seems to be Microsoft’s (successful) attempt to get everybody to use a reasonable Linux-style workfow. If you look at it as a text editor and terminal in a tiling window manager, it suddenly makes sense that it became so popular.

There is nothing legacy about Visual Studio. There is simply no equivalent of its debugging and profiling capabilities in C++ and C# especially in graphics / game development. No such equivalent exist in Unix world including macOS. They set the bar.

Have you tried Vtune? I don’t do much profiling, so I’m not sure what exactly good is, but when I’ve played around with it, it seemed neat.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#407

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Linux is great! And, thanks to Steam, a lot of games wirk as well. Not all, but most. Ubuntu, I haven't tried anything else so far, is a charm on Lenovo hardware. Update wise, it is were Windows was a couple of years ago. Meaning there are random updates that just kill and break certain functions. Happened last week, everything was running fine, including steam, as it always did. Until an update managed to delete the…

It would be great if Linux had some automatic checkpoints so you can revert to a working system after an update. So many times updates leave a broken system and re-install Ubuntu from scratch is quicker than fixing the problem.

NixOS has this by default, on any filesystem. You can also do it with ZFS or BTRFS filesystem snapshots.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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You sort of do if you want to boot kernels on btrfs. Refind is an option, but not most of the other EFI bootloaders.

You put the kernel (built with efistub) directly onto the EFI partition - no boot loaded needed at all.

Which kind of ruins bootable snapshots, as your kernel isn't part of them. You could have a massive esp with ~10 unified kernels each pointing at a different snapshot, with some kind of management script to handle them, but using GRUB seems easier than that.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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He deliberately shitcanned his system to generate clicks. What are people going to say if an uppity linux fanboy youtuber shows himself deleting system32 and then crying about Windows is unusable for non-Windows gurus for daily driving? They're going to say he's an idiot and move on. When I instruct my package manager to uninstall your desktop environment, and the package manager says, "You are about to delete critic…

Let's not forget, that while he did kind of shrug and agree to remove everything... that was a problem in the packaging spec. The package (Steam, if memory serves?) should not have had the other packages referenced as they were. The dependency/requirement resolution was faulty... Then he didn't truly take in the message and this is the result we get. There's plenty of "probably say no if you don't know what this mean…

> There's plenty of "probably say no if you don't know what this means" in what he ignored.

Users will pretty much always click what they think will make the goal they're trying to accomplish work. Usually "yes" or whatever the default is.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Let's not forget, that while he did kind of shrug and agree to remove everything... that was a problem in the packaging spec. The package (Steam, if memory serves?) should not have had the other packages referenced as they were. The dependency/requirement resolution was faulty... Then he didn't truly take in the message and this is the result we get. There's plenty of "probably say no if you don't know what this mean…

> There's plenty of "probably say no if you don't know what this means" in what he ignored. Users will pretty much always click what they think will make the goal they're trying to accomplish work. Usually "yes" or whatever the default is.

Indeed, and a tool that does what it's told is a good tool

The packaging snafu was unfortunate, but beyond preventing him from having the ability, I don't know how it could have improved

The spec shouldn't have been so egregiously incorrect. Pretending it didn't happen... how is something both powerful and safe?

I don't know how anything could be made to take arbitrary input and sort it out to meaningful work

Edit: Fedora does well to mark things as protected, this would likely help. But still, the operator should serve as a filter

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