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Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Is it just me or have you guys also noticed that the routes suggested by Google Maps have gotten worse? It seems that it only takes into account current traffic jams and not the ones which will occur 30mins into the trip. For instance, there's this spot in my city where I know there is a traffic jam at around 3:20 PM every day. I usually set off from home around 2:50 PM, which means I'll hit that congested area by 3:…

It's even worse for us cyclists. Regularly tries to kill me in the routes it picks.

(Apple guy here) Apple Maps also has cycling directions now, including an option to avoid busy roads. Maybe that will work?

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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with giant data beast company like google, everything is about indirect revenue. Just because map doesn't make money, doesn't mean it won't drive up other ad revues.

Google uses maps to collect the location data from iOS devices. So, Apple Maps are useful, because they prevent Google Maps from becoming "too many ads app".

Also duckduckgo has apple maps online too:

https://duckduckgo.com/?hps=1&q=maps&ia=web&iaxm=maps

Just noticed it recently.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Criticize Google Maps all you want, but it is easily one of the most useful apps to me, especially as someone who's been been living nomadically the last 5 years. It's kind of scary how dependent I am on this app. Anytime I need to find a restaurant, dentist, electronics store, etc. - I'm looking first on Google Maps and my life is basically dictated by the results. I have lists like "Places to Work" which is a list…

Waze is a decent alternative, if not mostly for the community driven aspect of it. Sometimes it’s too aggressive to save 1-2 minutes but it knows tolls , when they’re open, and just as accurate if not more than google maps at times

I don't understand this at all, how can Waze be a decent alternative when it doesn't show, well, anything? [At least where I live,] there's no photos, rating, comments, no info about opening times, no way to get there unless I'm driving (which in this European capital I am totally not), and even if I'm driving there's no info on parking zones (you can't just park anywhere on the street). Waze is literally 100 % useless for me in the city.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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The funniest thing to me is that Google Maps seems to be the "normal person" option and yet only OSM tells me where water fountains are. Millions of tourists worldwide use GMaps to navigate around in foreign places and yet they have no option to see where the closest place to refill their bottles is? Especially in the summer?

I don't care where are water fountains, but what bus/train/metro can I take to go to another place, where is the bus stop. At what time does arrive, and which bus stop do I need to get down. I can do that only on google maps. Open Street Map does not provide that info. Now I am sure there are some local app I can use for each individual city that works fine. But with google maps I only need to have one app. As user,…

For many, many major cities, the app you want is CityMapper, not Google Maps. Far superior for transit.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Probably not a popular opinion here, but I like Google Maps. Sure there's some clutter, but it's pretty good at navigation, public transit and searching for places. I don't know any better alternative.

My wife and I prefer navigating with Apple maps after Google Maps stagnated for years and years. Apple's voice instructions are incomparably better.

what alternate reality is this? Google Maps has never stagnated ever. Tons of new features have been added every year since it was first created. Go read the maps blog posts, watch the google i/o videos, or just search for it and you'll see 10s of thousands of articles listing the new features from each year.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Is is possible but the data is more frequently populated and generally more reliable on google maps. Google has some sort of system that auto-calls shops, I think, and asks them to verify that their hours are correct. It's still pretty crap and I'm sure OSM could beat google maps at that game too but it doesn't seem to be a focus.

A lot of that information on Google Maps is, at least partially, crowd-sourced. OSM-based apps could do the same thing (indeed, it's already sort of possible by just editing OSM directly with a separate app), though they don't have nearly as many users as Google Maps does so it wouldn't be quite as effective.

They have less data and their process for crowdsourcing is not as good. For instance, I'm pretty sure google maps validates user inputs by email and by phone if that doesn't work.

I also have a suspicion they put in random data as a means of motivating users to "fix" it where it's wrong. I've gone to one restaurant gmaps has said is open and it's been closed and had lunch at a restaurant next door it said was closed which was open.

Neither one seems to be able to handle stuff like public holiday working hours, odd days off, holidays, etc.

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I believe it, but do you have a source? I have a few friends I'd like to inform of this.

Funny, because I was wrong. Here’s the Nvidia privacy policy: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/about-nvidia/privacy-policy/ How I was wrong is was in the “valuable debugging information”. Because you can actually disable the sending of debug and crash statistics, but you cannot disable the collection of tracking everything you do except for password boxes! The original source on the telemetry was a print magazine, Canard…

I see nothing related to "title and window information" nor "every single spot that you click on your screen". Why did you dodge the question?

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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> Why is it that whenever somebody comes up with a clear cut and reasonable shortcoming of a big tech product Is it reasonable though?

Sticking to the cyborg larp? I shouldn't need to explain the relevance of water to you twice.

The point isn't the relevance of water, but the relevance of a specific feature to a given app.

Should Google Maps show me every single public bench too in case I need to sit down?

How about if I'm an avid cyclist, should they also show me every single secure railing I can lock my bike against?

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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> Every time I finally manage to orient myself when in a new place, the map starts spinning like crazy. There's a "Keep North up" option while navigating, and I think if you click the "center map on me" button while not navigating one of the states will keep north up. IMO smartphone compasses and gps are still too noisy to use anything other than "keep north up" as the default. Trying to navigate while your pin spins…

No, tapping the "centre map on me" button switches between auto-twirly and north-is-up-by-default, but even when in north-is-up-by-default mode, it'll still misinterpret you pinching to zoom as thinking you want the map rotated. I hate it. I'd turn on a setting to have North as up always, completely disabling the rotate-by-two-fingers "feature". I can't imagine anyone actually finding that feature useful for anything…

If your problem occurs because of accidental zooming with two fingers, then there’s a solution for you.

You can zoom map with just one finger (I use thumb) – do almost a double click but instead of releasing the second click, hold it pressed. Now as you hold it, just move thumb up and down to zoom in and out.

It’s a feature I discovered accidentally a few years ago, and in my experience pretty much no one knows about it, but once shown, everyone finds it extremely useful.

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