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Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Russians could stop flying to take vacation in occupied Crimea beachfront instead

There are places in Russia proper which are only reachable by plane due to lack of roads.

Just a thought, but may be they shouldn't have started a war of invasion then.

Not stealing western planes would be good too.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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I'm curious the actual mechanics of this operation. The main primary-source I found is a Telegram post of an Aeroflot pilot memo [0], but this only discusses the side-effects of reverser only braking, not the mechanics of "disabling the brakes." There is a possibility the brakes are still available and not worn through, and this is a preemptive measure to leave enough brake material to handle an emergency rejected ta…

The story looks like a penny dreadful of “Russia is doomed” series. 1. There’s no info on that Russian slide about actual planes flying without any breaks at all. There’s a manufacturer defined minimum equipment list that allows planes to have some breaks (actual number depends on the type of a plane) disabled for, let’s say, 10 days at the most. This is absolutely normal as planes cannot be serviced constantly (they…

> There are different types of “breaks”: > the ones used in a landing and the > ones for an end-of-runway “stop” are > not the same.

The dynamic and parking brakes use different actuator systems, but rely on the same rotors and stators on the undercarriage. Those are the consumbale parts that are sanctioned.

In general it is permitted to dispatch an airliner with one or more brakes unavailable, depending upon load and airport conditions, but it's meant to be an interim measure pending brake replacement.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are places in Russia proper which are only reachable by plane due to lack of roads.

Just a thought, but may be they shouldn't have started a war of invasion then. Not stealing western planes would be good too.

Who are "they"? Civilians who have to fly by plane because they have no other option?

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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The difference in this case is that when the Max-8s crashed they were no longer airworthy and were not re-flown.

After the 2nd. one.

None of the crashed 737 MAX-8s were ever re-flown. This is a conversation about re-flying air frames that have been involved in fatalities. Air frames here means the planes, not the model. The 737 Max-8 is a cautionary tale about a lot of things, but re-flying crashed airframes is not one of the lessons.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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post #259

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Russians could stop flying to take vacation in occupied Crimea beachfront instead

There are places in Russia proper which are only reachable by plane due to lack of roads.

Get the dudes digging trenches in front of Crimea to build those roads instead

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Leasing "thrust", not engines; there's a distinction that might not be obvious at first. Engines are leased at different thrust ratings depending on what the airline needs. Mostly fly out of long runway airports in fairly cool, low altitude (ie dense air) locales lots of thin, svelte passengers who have little luggage, on fairly short trips with not much fuel needed onboard? You can get away with a lot less thrust th…

You're telling me that there are devices built into civilian airplanes that are able to disable or hobble the engines based on the whims of _business agreements_? It seems beyond reason that a pilot would be denied an engine's full design thrust, especially in a contingency that requires as much performance as possible (terrain avoidance, wind shear, aerodynamic surface failures, engine flameouts, on-ground emergenci…

https://airleasereviewblog.com/2016/06/19/engine-thrust-at-d...

It seems like a system that can't be easily changed mid flight and it's leased from the manufacturer as an alternative to buying the 'upgrade'.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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I am more surprised there is not a sufficiently rich black-market operation going around sanctions. Random site[0] says, >In general, airplane brakes can last between 1000-2000 landings before they are changed. An active airplane makes an estimate of two landings per day; this means the airplane needs to be changed after 18-36 months. Even at multiple brake pads(?) per plane, that does not sound an insurmountable amo…

Black market from where? If caught selling parts to Russia, you'll be banned by Airbus and Boeing, meaning you can't maintain your own fleet.

There absolutely is a black market for selling airplane parts to sanctioned countries. As an example, Cuban state airline Cubana has been flying ATR turboprops with American made engines (and many other parts) since 2002 or so. Even with wide sanctions, Iran has maintained an operational fleet of old Boeings, and during past decade even newer aircraft.

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/31395-here-is-how-iran-sm...

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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While I agree that we should be sanctioning Russia, I think a carve-out should be made for things like commercial aviation parts. Eventually there will be an accident as a result of parts that can't be replaced, we don't need more lives lost to this war.

The vast majority of West-built planes that are currently being operated in Russia are stolen from their owners (they were leased and then Russia simply didn't return the planes when the lease was ceased due to the war). Are you proposing to permit sending parts to repair stolen planes?

"The United States and Western allies have seized more than $300 billion in Russian central bank foreign currency assets frozen by sanctions."

Really dumb way to doom the US dollar and the world banking system. I guess Russia took a few planes as consolation? https://www.reuters.com/world/yellen-says-legal-obstacles-re...

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Planes don't stop with the reverse thrust, only slow down to 100-120km/h. If you use it a lower speed there's a real risk of lifting a piece of debris off the runway and sucking it into the engine intake. This is why we have to bother with pushback for jet aircrafts unlike the convenient powerback we have for props.

There will, of course, be absolutely no foreign debris on any Russian runways ever, even the ones crudely hacked from the taiga!

Looking forward to the operator guidelines on why flying on one engine is required in the near future.

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