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Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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The state is afraid of mushrooms because they let users detach from the groupthink that guides the people from birth to death. The groupthink is made of many polished thought-circuits that compel an individual to do certain things, such as buying a nice car, working an office job, going to vacation on hawaii, watching tv, and so on.

The difference is in why they are going to Hawaii. Mimetic and status driven reasons suggest groupthink.

Or, the magic volcanoes are talking to the sky.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laws exist to create a civil society. You shouldn't get an exemption because you have an imaginary friend.

LOL I agree. Let's get the church to pay taxes and return public lands and then I'm happy to chat.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I actually endorse these ideas

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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I'm all for magic mushrooms and legalization, but I don't buy this 1st amendment religious exemption bullshit. The law should apply equally to everyone and everything, or it ceases to have any meaning. It's the same as the Supreme Court carving out a religious exemption to the Civil Rights act. There's no good reason why people's woo-woo beliefs somehow changes whether the law applies to them or not. It's ridiculous.

Religious exemptions are a good thing and should be respected. It’s important to be skeptical of novel religious claims, as they're usually just a cynical abuse of a legal exemption. Exemptions should certainly not be limitless: America is incompatible with human sacrifice.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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The state is afraid of mushrooms because they let users detach from the groupthink that guides the people from birth to death. The groupthink is made of many polished thought-circuits that compel an individual to do certain things, such as buying a nice car, working an office job, going to vacation on hawaii, watching tv, and so on.

> going to vacation on hawaii Most of the dudes I know plenty of dudes who partake in psilocybin also really like going to Hawaii. Maybe they didn't get stuff good enough to break that particular thought-circuit? What do you think?

He probably needs a higher dose: addiction to Hawaii and surfing develops quickly, and it's hard to break.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Pretty simple: do nothing and spend police resources on violent crime instead.

DA won’t do anything, so why would anyone risk their well being for more paperwork?

If I was the cops, I would start a skunk works style database of recurring offenders, arrests, judicial decisions and outcomes.

Once you have a good number of smoking-gun cases of repeat violent offenders due to DA inaction, then leak it to the media. Name and shame the DA, make sure the voters / people in power know where the weak link is and give them a better alternative.

Cops get apathetic because their arrests have no effect, but the paperwork can be useful to solve the fundamental problem.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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I'm all for magic mushrooms and legalization, but I don't buy this 1st amendment religious exemption bullshit. The law should apply equally to everyone and everything, or it ceases to have any meaning. It's the same as the Supreme Court carving out a religious exemption to the Civil Rights act. There's no good reason why people's woo-woo beliefs somehow changes whether the law applies to them or not. It's ridiculous.

Religious exemptions are a good thing and should be respected. It’s important to be skeptical of novel religious claims, as they're usually just a cynical abuse of a legal exemption. Exemptions should certainly not be limitless: America is incompatible with human sacrifice.

I think we make selective religious accommodations and exemptions for no good reason. Why is one person’s fiction more deserving or more valid than another? Followers of CotFSM and Scientology have as much of a claim on special treatment as do older religions.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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In the past hackers generally sought subvert the dominant paradigm and play with uncomfortable boundaries as a result (or just to do it).

You may not like how they do it, or why they do it, but you have to acknowledge and appreciate the spirit of the exercise.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL I agree. Let's get the church to pay taxes and return public lands and then I'm happy to chat.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I actually endorse these ideas

I very much endorse them as well and so, happily join you.

Re: Magic mushrooms are for sale in SF, and the city gov has no idea what to do

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

DA won’t do anything, so why would anyone risk their well being for more paperwork?

If I was the cops, I would start a skunk works style database of recurring offenders, arrests, judicial decisions and outcomes. Once you have a good number of smoking-gun cases of repeat violent offenders due to DA inaction, then leak it to the media. Name and shame the DA, make sure the voters / people in power know where the weak link is and give them a better alternative. Cops get apathetic because their arrests h…

The people that might put in unpaid extra sweat and tears to do that have been scared away from the profession due to media storms that occur on those 1 in 1000 poor interactions that are filmed on 3 hours of sleep.
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