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I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by post-it »

photonpsd wrote: post #89
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would that stop people from getting ripped off by fakes?

fakes wouldn't come with a token that verifies the book is authentic. They are doing the same thing with luxury watches and fashion items. i.e. the real Gucci purse comes with an NFT, (likely NFT + NFC) for authentication and coms with the brand.

How would anyone know to look for an NFT on the fake?

The target of the scammers is someone browsing Amazon, who isn't going to know to look for an NFT. Someone familiar with the author is just going to check the author's website and see the list of books they've published.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by zebomon »

labster wrote: post #94
opportune wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, until someone creates a website that just ships the products they say they have, and people type in the URL for the site directly and shop there? If online shopping were truly such a terribly scammy UX in 100% of cases people would stop using it or shift to shopping from trusted sellers who recognize the tremendous amount of value they can capture by not scamming people.

We’re in a race to the bottom. There’s no way a company selling legitimate products will be able to compete or grow a customer base in the AI future, because we’ll be swimming in garbage.

I really don't see how one follows the other without then in sequence, as the comment you replied to describes, value-based businesses emerge to fill the obvious gap and compete.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by stOneskull »

labster wrote: post #94
opportune wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, until someone creates a website that just ships the products they say they have, and people type in the URL for the site directly and shop there? If online shopping were truly such a terribly scammy UX in 100% of cases people would stop using it or shift to shopping from trusted sellers who recognize the tremendous amount of value they can capture by not scamming people.

We’re in a race to the bottom. There’s no way a company selling legitimate products will be able to compete or grow a customer base in the AI future, because we’ll be swimming in garbage.

there'll still be people and communication. and so, word-of-mouth.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by soerxpso »

labster wrote: post #94
opportune wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, until someone creates a website that just ships the products they say they have, and people type in the URL for the site directly and shop there? If online shopping were truly such a terribly scammy UX in 100% of cases people would stop using it or shift to shopping from trusted sellers who recognize the tremendous amount of value they can capture by not scamming people.

We’re in a race to the bottom. There’s no way a company selling legitimate products will be able to compete or grow a customer base in the AI future, because we’ll be swimming in garbage.

This assumes that the only ways people have to find companies are search engines and other mediums that are prone to AI takeover. If everyone starts to realize that most of the surface internet is garbage, they would start communicating with humans they know about which places are not garbage. It was possible to find good businesses to interact with before Google existed.

Obviously in a world where every online retailer is nearly useless, a guy who creates an online retailer that is not useless would immediately have anyone he personally tells about it as customers, and anyone they tell about it, and so on (since in this hypothetical, everyone is desperate for a good retailer).

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by coliveira »

projectileboy wrote: post #26

Haha… Amazon, you say? You mean the large money laundering operation, putting third party counterfeit goods in the same warehouse bins as legitimate goods from legitimate suppliers, so that as a consumer you never know if you’re going to get counterfeit goods? Yes, that’s the Amazon we know and love.

Not just counterfeit products, a lot of original stolen products are also there in the mix.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by vbezhenar »

citizenpaul wrote: post #87
spicyusername wrote: post #47

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I think people have a lower tolerance for this than that, and will just go back to relying on personal recommendations and other reliable forms of curation.

I think we will see the pendulum swing back. Yahoo lost to google because they were a manually curated search engine and could not keep up with google indexing and search. Now that all search is SEO gamed garbagebwe are going to see a new curated search engine rise in market share again

I'm pretty sure that Google uses human adjustments for their search results.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by mr_toad »

nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

Maybe people will finally stop believing everything they see online.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by dragonwriter »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #69
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

Is it not the case that AI is pretty good at detecting AI generated content?

It is not, which is why lots of people have been focusing on watermarking–which, obviously, all kinds of actors that don’t feel the need to comply with regulations, either because they are exempt (practically, even if not theoretically) governments, or “renegade” anti-establishment will simply either not implement or not provide the public with the pattern information needed to detect the watermark, so...

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by giantg2 »

labster wrote: post #94
opportune wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, until someone creates a website that just ships the products they say they have, and people type in the URL for the site directly and shop there? If online shopping were truly such a terribly scammy UX in 100% of cases people would stop using it or shift to shopping from trusted sellers who recognize the tremendous amount of value they can capture by not scamming people.

We’re in a race to the bottom. There’s no way a company selling legitimate products will be able to compete or grow a customer base in the AI future, because we’ll be swimming in garbage.

Plenty of niche, premium, or physical stores out there. People might need to pay a little more for it, but they do exist. Not everyone buys everything from the same super stores.
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