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I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by WalterBright »

WalterBright wrote: post #56
tornato7 wrote: post #29

Just some of the problems authors already faced online (I'm related to one): - Google indexing and republishing all of their work for free on Google Books (finally resolved after a huge Class Action suit where the authors were awarded a few $$) - List your book on Amazon for $20 and a "third party" reseller will immediately hijack your listing with a poorly printed knockoff copy for $19 - Widespread piracy of Kindle…

> finally resolved after a huge Class Action suit where the authors were awarded a few $$ One wonders if that few $$ was worth the bother for the authors. Especially when set against the free marketing that such exposure would get for them. There are other reasons for writing books than making money selling them, such as enhancing your professional reputation, which can segue into a better paying job, more contract o…

I practice what I preach. I create content every day, and give it away for free.

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Post by post-it »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #69
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

Is it not the case that AI is pretty good at detecting AI generated content?

It is not the case.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by hedora »

spicyusername wrote: post #47
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

I think people have a lower tolerance for this than that, and will just go back to relying on personal recommendations and other reliable forms of curation.

The streaming services business model more-or-less outlaws collections that are curated by third parties.

We already know what happens when piracy is the most convenient/highest quality option, but I’m guessing media distributors will need a reminder soon.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by labster »

opportune wrote: post #66
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

Yeah, until someone creates a website that just ships the products they say they have, and people type in the URL for the site directly and shop there? If online shopping were truly such a terribly scammy UX in 100% of cases people would stop using it or shift to shopping from trusted sellers who recognize the tremendous amount of value they can capture by not scamming people.

We’re in a race to the bottom. There’s no way a company selling legitimate products will be able to compete or grow a customer base in the AI future, because we’ll be swimming in garbage.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by menus »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #69
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

Is it not the case that AI is pretty good at detecting AI generated content?

OpenAI does not think so.

> As of July 20, 2023, the AI classifier is no longer available due to its low rate of accuracy.

https://openai.com/blog/new-ai-classifier-for-indicating-ai-...

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by menus »

nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

You have described Dead Internet Theory:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by pixl97 »

opportune wrote: post #66
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

Yeah, until someone creates a website that just ships the products they say they have, and people type in the URL for the site directly and shop there? If online shopping were truly such a terribly scammy UX in 100% of cases people would stop using it or shift to shopping from trusted sellers who recognize the tremendous amount of value they can capture by not scamming people.

Why be a billionaire when you can be a trillionare? Greed will ruin everything.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by userbinator »

spicyusername wrote: post #47
nomat wrote: post #44

I think this is the future of computers for people. they will open their phone and say "hey siri get this book or computer or car" and the browser will show them a bunch of made up products generated by an AI and they'll get the product drop shipped from china and it'll be a shitty counterfeit just like the $5 256GB USB drives. But they won't know because when you look for reviews, the review websites will also be ge…

I think people have a lower tolerance for this than that, and will just go back to relying on personal recommendations and other reliable forms of curation.

Unfortunately, "personal recommendations" seems to mean "influencers" these days.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by hedora »

citizenpaul wrote: post #87
spicyusername wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think people have a lower tolerance for this than that, and will just go back to relying on personal recommendations and other reliable forms of curation.

I think we will see the pendulum swing back. Yahoo lost to google because they were a manually curated search engine and could not keep up with google indexing and search. Now that all search is SEO gamed garbagebwe are going to see a new curated search engine rise in market share again

That’s not why Yahoo lost. They switched CEOs and corporate direction / business models more than once a year on average toward the end.

Also, during the collapse of yahoo, it was a poorly kept secret that google had already mostly abandoned page rank, and had large manual curation teams.

To add insult to injury, in unbranded head to head tests, Yahoo search had better search result quality than google for many years before it was sold to Microsoft.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by Tao3300 »

maximinus_thrax wrote: post #43
projectileboy wrote: post #26

Haha… Amazon, you say? You mean the large money laundering operation, putting third party counterfeit goods in the same warehouse bins as legitimate goods from legitimate suppliers, so that as a consumer you never know if you’re going to get counterfeit goods? Yes, that’s the Amazon we know and love.

It's amazing how many people aren't aware of this. This should be way more publicized. I was talking to a business partner a while back and mentioned I'm not using Amazon and they were shocked. When I listed all my reasons and this one came up, they didn't believe me and we stopped talking until they looked it up online and were convinced. They were using Amazon to order all supplements and it stopped then and there.

> we stopped talking until they looked it up online and were convinced.

So what did they see that finally convinced them?

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