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Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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How in the world would any common Russian trust an airplane in this current sanctioned state in Russia and fly in one?! Are people that brainwashed to trust their leader to get on a plane that doesn’t have brakes?!

Recently read Derk Sauers autobiography on his 30 years of living and doing business in Russia.

Russians are... different from us. The vodka stereotype is real and combine that with melancholy and religion they are all kamikaze.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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I don’t speak russian, would you mind pointing out the relevant part of that article that inverts the claim of disabled brakes?

According to this article, using planes with some of the brakes disabled is OK and generally accepted everywhere, up to 10 days. Of course brakes will be replaced soon, but just the fact that some breaks are not functional does not mean that plane have to be moved to repair immediately. There are some plane defects which are considered acceptable for limited time use and this situation is one of them.

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We have a word for US movies and books portraying Russia: "klukva" (cranberry). Because in every US made movie and US written book amount of lies and confabulations about Russian history and Russian culture is so high, that it deserves a special word. E.g. I was reading a book recently by John le Carré and had to stop after reading about 50 pages. I simply couldn't continue. E.g. there's a scene where Russian traitor…

> We always drink vodka together with substantial food It's funny that you say this because one of the strongest memories I have of a former Russian co-worker was him telling me that "when you drink vodka, the food must be right there. You drink, then you eat right away. That is the only way to do it." And I tend to remember it as I'm taking a shot of vodka and it always makes me smile. Alex, I'll have a drink for yo…

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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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If driving were 10 times more dangerous than it is now, we'd all still be doing it.

your lifetime risk of dying in a motor accident is about 1 in 100 (depending on where in the world you live) I suspect you'd see fewer people driving if it was 1 in 10

>I suspect you'd see fewer people driving if it was 1 in 10

I don't. The cohort of people that make risk assessments with regards to routine every-day things and change their plans accordingly is minuscule, and most places around the world do not have an equivalent form of transportation.

Even with minor/un-needed activities people tend to ignore risk. Every cigarette smoker over a long enough period will develop health problems and eventually die faster than they would have otherwise, but it's still a thing; and it doesn't offer the advantage of actually facilitating getting to work on time and feeding your family.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

#165

Why would you deactivate the brakes, rather than just tell the pilots "don't use the brakes unless it's absolutely necessary, and use thrust reversers instead"?

Possibly if the pads are at extremely low wear, you would only need to replace the pads/shoes when parts are available. But if you tell pilots 'just don't use them', then they will keep using them, and those pads/shoes could wear through and begin damaging other parts of the callipers which would result in more parts requiring replacement?

Not an aircraft mechanic, but just making an assumption based on the similarities in cars

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

#166

What’s going to be the effect of increased use of the engine? Airlines like to derate their engines for takeoffs that don’t require full performance in order to save wear and tear; how much quicker are the engines going to require overhaul due to extraordinary reverse thruster usage? I guess the brakes involve more rapidly consumable items, but this seems like a decidedly suboptimal solution when it knocks a good por…

i agree, its not like there's going to be shortage of brakes in the future, that's a rather simple component.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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This is just lies. I tracked this situation and watched official TV. There was interruption at night with breaking news which informed about Prigozhin mutiny. Few hours later there was Putin interruption where he condemned this action and publicly called them a traitors. I don't think that there were many Russians who were not aware of this situation in this day. Some details could have been hidden, like shot down he…

and after those 2 glorious day ? how much discussion on television ? "on june 23-24 absolutely nothing happened in russia" didn't came to existence by accident

I'm not a vivid official TV watcher, so I can't comment about it, sorry. My point is that every russian citizen is perfectly aware of what's happened that day, so hiding very important events is not possible, at least today. Hiding plane crash with hundred of passengers is not possible.

Now explaining those events is another matter. And that's where propaganda will kick in, for sure.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

#168
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This is probably going to be just the tip of the iceberg. There was already articles around cannibalisation of planes so that you can service and repair an ever dwindling number of aircraft. If it keeps going on for another year or two it's not going to be good

There’s a huge industry of leasing jet engines to avoid downtime since most shop time is spent waiting for engine repair. The lessors hot swap engines and avoid downtime for an entire jet just so an engine can get serviced. This is a perfectly normal practice in the aviation industry.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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No one ever said that they can't. But going from zero to being able to buy replacement Boeing (or whoever the OEM was) brakes off the shelf is a process of many months (in the optimistic case) or years, not weeks. After all, even the simplest analysis for an aviation supplier has to be "can we make enough money selling these replacement brakes to cover the cost of setting up a manufacturing, quality control, and dist…

This would have made sense 12 months or even 9 months ago, but we're now 18 months into a war that Russia's government had otherwise been preparing domestically for. Again: what gives?

> 18 months into a war that Russia's government had otherwise been preparing domestically for

Eh, I think we all saw how "prepared" Russia was.

In any case, I think the following factors are definitive here:

- No one really considers the current situation as "permanent". The war will be over at some point and life will go on. So investing in manufacturing of those specific parts might prove a waste.

- This is specifically an issue with parts for foreign aircrafts. Is it even worth producing parts for foreign crafts?

- There are ways to evade sanctions and smuggle parts and right now, to some degree

- Russia passed a legislation allowing 3rd-party parts and signed a contract with Iran on airplane maintainance and parts supply - Iran already has an expertise and industrial capacity operating in somewhat similar conditions. Iran also has more experience smuggling.

Obviously, that work had started many months ago, not just now.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

#170

While I agree that we should be sanctioning Russia, I think a carve-out should be made for things like commercial aviation parts. Eventually there will be an accident as a result of parts that can't be replaced, we don't need more lives lost to this war.

Unfortunately, there's plenty of precedent both in terms of sanctions and lives lost in Iran, which is a flying junkyard of ancient planes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_aviation_accid...

For example, if you'd like to fly an Airbus A300 (first flight 1972), the only ones left in passenger operation are in Iran.

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