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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by martin8412 »

avar wrote: post #63
keddad wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I flew from Moscow to Vladivastok recently, and it's a choice between 8 hour flight and a week in a train. The planes might be missing some maintenance, but they are certainly not falling out of the skies, and it's not like the trains can't fail (especially considering occasional train tracks sabotages). There are always risks, it's not that big of a deal.

Isn't the in-between choice to drive or fly out of Russia towards Europe, then fly east on a non-Russian airline, and eventually take e.g. the Tokyo to Vladivostok direct flight?

The Russian airlines can't fly to most of Europe. They're sanctioned by the EU. You'd need to drive. But better option is probably just flying through Turkey. Turkish Airlines still operate in Russia. Turkish Airlines isn't sanctioned, so they can maintain their planes just fine.

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Post by foverzar »

blibble wrote: post #69
closewith wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to hide an airliner crash in this day and age. Certainly over land, anyway.

I'd agree if it was almost any other country meanwhile the Russian state has complete control of the media and 99% of the country's area is essentially empty

And that is exactly "klyukva leaking into seemingly serious reasoning" I was talking about here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37041836

There are myriad of reasons why this is not realistic, but if I were to pick the most obvious, that would be

1. No, there is no "complete control of the media", IDK why people assume it to be the case. Broadcast federal tv has to be politically correct, but not too much beyond that.

2. Planes are tracked and people usually have relatives or something.

3. Planes fly through established routes and air corridors - they have a specific destination and don't fly over random wilderness all over the map.

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Post by sorokod »

anticodon wrote: post #61
parl_match wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, in America I don't think we have rules against reintroducing planes involved in deadly incidents, but are still airworthy. The shrine is a bit wild, though.

We have a word for US movies and books portraying Russia: "klukva" (cranberry). Because in every US made movie and US written book amount of lies and confabulations about Russian history and Russian culture is so high, that it deserves a special word. E.g. I was reading a book recently by John le Carré and had to stop after reading about 50 pages. I simply couldn't continue. E.g. there's a scene where Russian traitor…

In what time period does the plot occur?

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Post by almostnormal »

dragonwriter wrote: post #97
blibble wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd agree if it was almost any other country meanwhile the Russian state has complete control of the media and 99% of the country's area is essentially empty

> meanwhile the Russian state has complete control of the media Traditional mass media, sure, but there are a lot of people that have to know about a plane crash, and containing that information, even in Russia, is nontrivial.

It is trivial. Official news will report that it was shot down or sabotaged by Ukrainian spies. I'm sure that the scripts and some stock footage are already prepared for when it happens.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by foverzar »

throwawaysleep wrote: post #12
reacharavindh wrote: post #3

How in the world would any common Russian trust an airplane in this current sanctioned state in Russia and fly in one?! Are people that brainwashed to trust their leader to get on a plane that doesn’t have brakes?!

Life matters not there. Not in war. Not in peace. Not in travel. Not in home. Most Western countries obsess about proventing deaths. The USA does as well, except among poor people and gun victims.

So you assume.

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Post by userbinator »

sillywalk wrote: post #21

My heart bleeds. FTA: "Many parts in (western made) Russian passenger aircraft that would normally be easily replaced are rapidly wearing out with no replacement parts in sight due to the import of spare aircraft parts from Boeing and Airbus being banned since March 2022. " I wonder what other parts are wearing out.

I suspect they'll start making their own, if they haven't already been.

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Post by meindnoch »

bloak wrote: post #15
zgluck wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Replying to a comment saying that western sanctions will cause deaths of Russian civilians.) No, the blame will lie with Russian regulators and airlines. Russian civilians can take the bus.

But what if the bus is even more dangerous? :-)

Well, considering Russian road habits...

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by a2xd94 »

Everything is completely and totally under control, comrades, no need for panic!

These sort of statements by the Russian government truly invoke Chernobyl-like images in my mind ; deception piled upon lies piled upon misinformation with a cherry of whataboutism on top.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by tguvot »

userbinator wrote: post #127
sillywalk wrote: post #21

My heart bleeds. FTA: "Many parts in (western made) Russian passenger aircraft that would normally be easily replaced are rapidly wearing out with no replacement parts in sight due to the import of spare aircraft parts from Boeing and Airbus being banned since March 2022. " I wonder what other parts are wearing out.

I suspect they'll start making their own, if they haven't already been.

they don't have proper specs, manufacturing equipment, materials, engineers, machinists, etc. they been trying to source parts from india, china, iran, etc.
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