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Re: Show HN: ChainForge, a visual tool for prompt engineering and LLM evaluation

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Post by 7moritz7 »

_puk wrote: post #10
swyx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"source available" means one thing, but this is properly MIT open source and i believe the authors should receive credit for that in this age of frankenlicenses EDIT: ah: "This work was partially funded by the NSF grant IIS-2107391." ok cool we the taxpayer funded it haha

I didn't want to open that can of worms: "If you use ChainForge for research purposes, or build upon the source code, we ask that you cite this project in any related publications. The BibTeX you can use for now is.." That's outside of the MIT licence as far as I'm concerned

It says "we ask", not "you have to". I'd say it's open to interpretation that this is an informal request and not legally binding. Also I do want to open the can of worms and say that whoever doesn't even have the respect to include a citation on request when using someone else's work should just write everything themselves.

Re: Show HN: ChainForge, a visual tool for prompt engineering and LLM evaluation

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Post by priyanmuthu »

_puk wrote: post #10
swyx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"source available" means one thing, but this is properly MIT open source and i believe the authors should receive credit for that in this age of frankenlicenses EDIT: ah: "This work was partially funded by the NSF grant IIS-2107391." ok cool we the taxpayer funded it haha

I didn't want to open that can of worms: "If you use ChainForge for research purposes, or build upon the source code, we ask that you cite this project in any related publications. The BibTeX you can use for now is.." That's outside of the MIT licence as far as I'm concerned

Hi! I’m one of the great students working on this. This is merely a request to get more visibility. It will also help us get more grants. We don’t have any intention of restricting the “openness” of it.

Re: Show HN: ChainForge, a visual tool for prompt engineering and LLM evaluation

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Post by priyanmuthu »

swyx wrote: post #8
KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #7

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It seems to be more powerful than langflow and flowise https://github.com/logspace-ai/langflow https://github.com/FlowiseAI/Flowise

k i need somebody to do a comparison table for us...

We will mostly do this comparison when we write our research paper. I can post it here when we do it.

Re: Show HN: ChainForge, a visual tool for prompt engineering and LLM evaluation

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Post by mabcat »

_puk wrote: post #10
swyx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"source available" means one thing, but this is properly MIT open source and i believe the authors should receive credit for that in this age of frankenlicenses EDIT: ah: "This work was partially funded by the NSF grant IIS-2107391." ok cool we the taxpayer funded it haha

I didn't want to open that can of worms: "If you use ChainForge for research purposes, or build upon the source code, we ask that you cite this project in any related publications. The BibTeX you can use for now is.." That's outside of the MIT licence as far as I'm concerned

I think that's the wrong end of the stick. When you publish research, the software you used/built on is part of the methods and needs to be cited. The authors are doing you a courtesy by providing a pasteable citation.

Similar "we would appreciate citations" statement for (BSD-licensed) pandas: https://pandas.pydata.org/about/citing.html

8000+ pubs citing pandas: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=9876954816936339312

Re: Show HN: ChainForge, a visual tool for prompt engineering and LLM evaluation

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Post by _puk »

priyanmuthu wrote: post #13
_puk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't want to open that can of worms: "If you use ChainForge for research purposes, or build upon the source code, we ask that you cite this project in any related publications. The BibTeX you can use for now is.." That's outside of the MIT licence as far as I'm concerned

Hi! I’m one of the great students working on this. This is merely a request to get more visibility. It will also help us get more grants. We don’t have any intention of restricting the “openness” of it.

Awesome, thank you!

If I called it truly open source I half expected to get shot down.

I know where we stand now :)

Re: Show HN: ChainForge, a visual tool for prompt engineering and LLM evaluation

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Post by sdesol »

swyx wrote: post #8
KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be more powerful than langflow and flowise https://github.com/logspace-ai/langflow https://github.com/FlowiseAI/Flowise

k i need somebody to do a comparison table for us...

I can't comment on the features, but ChainForge has some catching up to do...mind share wise. Below are some community insights for langflow, Flowise and ChainForge

https://devboard.gitsense.com/logspace-ai/langflow

https://devboard.gitsense.com/FlowiseAI/Flowise

https://devboard.gitsense.com/ianarawjo/ChainForge

Flowise currently has the largest active community (based on GitHub data)

Full Disclosure: This is my tool

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