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Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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>In the perennial battle between mapping services, there are two main competitors: Google Maps and Apple Maps

Wow, straight out of the gate they're jumping to conclusions. I can think of a dozen "mapping services" that are free for personal use. Each has a particular strength and use-case.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Criticize Google Maps all you want, but it is easily one of the most useful apps to me, especially as someone who's been been living nomadically the last 5 years. It's kind of scary how dependent I am on this app. Anytime I need to find a restaurant, dentist, electronics store, etc. - I'm looking first on Google Maps and my life is basically dictated by the results. I have lists like "Places to Work" which is a list…

Waze is a decent alternative, if not mostly for the community driven aspect of it. Sometimes it’s too aggressive to save 1-2 minutes but it knows tolls , when they’re open, and just as accurate if not more than google maps at times

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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This is a real issue, but it has nothing to do with Google specifically. You’re basically saying that information on road networks should be obscured or restricted so governments can indirectly control the flow of traffic. Japan actually has some soft regulations in this space about routing and road visibility (e.g. residential roads are hidden when you’re on thoroughfares). But they’re just suggestions so only domes…

No, I am saying that by diverting drivers to regional roads without taking into account local population, this is directly Google fault. Why? Before Google started messing with information about congestion, there was no issue. Regional roads swallowed without any problem those few adventurous tourists that decided to use them. Now you find an average Joe everywhere. Wanna se another interesting example (use google tr…

> this is directly Google fault. > Check number of accidents since 2006

I believe it is a funnel of things: Slovenia became part of EU. GPS navigation in cars and smartphones became a thing. Google isn't even the only traffic data provider. Slovenia has RDS-TMC since 2009. So even a boring TomTom will show some form of congestion info.

But I agree with you, that navigation tools should not direct traffic away from the main roads (especial transit roads). Traffic planners should somehow be able to weight streets or routes.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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I can't recommend MAPS.ME enough. It's an iOS app based on OpenStreetMap. The amount of details is overwhelming, compared to Google Maps or Apple Maps.

I heavily recommend you switch to https://organicmaps.app/, a privacy-focused, open-source fork of Maps.me, not by a payment processor.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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GeForce experience tracks every single window you have open, sending the title and window information, along with every single spot that you click on your screen to Nvidia, tied to your now mandatory account. That was a couple years back. Who knows how much more invasive it’s gotten since. Oh. And this data is considered to be “valuable debugging information”, so is not prevented by opting out of analytics.

Well, PiHole stops one particular endpoint for sure. And it's called several thousands times during a 3-hour gaming session. Pretty creepy indeed.

Now we just wait for them to do DNS over HTTPS and domain fronting to a generic cloudflare endpoint.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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> Millions of tourists worldwide use GMaps to navigate around in foreign places and yet they have no option to see where the closest place to refill their bottles is? Especially in the summer? It’s almost like this isn’t a thing folks are actually looking for.

Why is it that whenever somebody comes up with a clear cut and reasonable shortcoming of a big tech product, there's a mass of sycophants that crawl out of the ground to say "nobody wants that, you're just a weirdo" ? Everybody drinks water. It often isn't intuitively obvious where you can find water. Even in city parks, water fountains may not be where you expect but often are where you wouldn't. Google maps also su…

> Why is it that whenever somebody comes up with a clear cut and reasonable shortcoming of a big tech product

Is it reasonable though?

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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I believe it, but do you have a source? I have a few friends I'd like to inform of this.

Funny, because I was wrong. Here’s the Nvidia privacy policy: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/about-nvidia/privacy-policy/ How I was wrong is was in the “valuable debugging information”. Because you can actually disable the sending of debug and crash statistics, but you cannot disable the collection of tracking everything you do except for password boxes! The original source on the telemetry was a print magazine, Canard…

Where does your link support what you are claiming? Clicking "see more" on all the sections and searching, there is no mention of "valuable debubbing information". Under "Using NVIDIA Products" section it lists GeForce experience, but not plain graphics cards or their drivers. I have no nvtmmon.exe running and the folder

    C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry\reports
Has almost empty files last modified 2019.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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The search-along-route is more of a 'search-around-my-current position'. If you e.g. need fuel, it lists options for busy towns in the wrong direction rather than the easiest path along your current route. If you need a given RON or niche fuel, you just have to memorise which suppliers sell it & hope that it shows up in the list. The utopian vision that it could figure out the range of the car it's connected to and u…

>The worst part is that the Apple & Google duopoly in maps supported by Android Auto and Apple Carplay means there's no way for a superior alternative to succeed in the market. What does Android Auto and Apple Carplay have to do with it? Aren't both of them available for third party apps to use?

The Apple one is available, theoretically, though you have to specify each time to tell Siri to get directions with something other than Apple, and it also won’t support any features such as the useful “share ETA” which is a real shame. They also thankfully opened up their split-screen mode to third party navigation apps a couple years ago (though, incidentally, that screen is utter trash in my humble opinion because of what it doesn’t include).

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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You can use Open Street Mmap and a suitable app of your choice. OSM is strong on the local level. Check out https://organicmaps.app/

Does this show on the car's display or is it limited to showing on the phone's screen?

Organic Maps supports Carplay, but not yet the Android variant You can however not use both the phone and Carplay at the same time

If you need that, you can try https://www.magicearth.com

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Worth adding that information to open street maps so that it available for other maps too.

For sure, but for many people there's only Google Maps, and maybe Apple Maps. On the short term, catering to Google Maps makes sense. They'd add to another project if it were to be popular enough, and the network effect keeps Google Maps popular. Hence they get away with enshittification.

That's just another reason why it's worth adding that information to open street maps, if you are able to.
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