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Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by humanizersequel »

jabradoodle wrote: post #66
vvpan wrote: post #57

I know a lot of people will use this to say that blockchain bad, and that is up to you. But really biometrics collection has little to do with blockchain. Worldcoin is firstly a company that collects biometrics and secondly they decided to use an immutable ledger to record the data (although they claim that it is only hashes). That aside if I wanted to record a bunch of hashes for perpetuity blockchain would actually…

Blockchain would not be the right tech if you don't need decentralised trust. Write once media on a server is what you want.

>Write once media on a server is what you want

How does that solve this problem:

>[company will] go out of business and take down the servers with it

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by kstrauser »

jabradoodle wrote: post #63
sdenton4 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, I liked the original idea behind this, and thought it was one of the few actually-interesting applications of crypto currency. If you can (somehow) solve the unique identity problem, you can design a Universal Basic Income using a crypto-currency as backing. The Unique ID problem isn't solved by the blockchain, though, so it ends up being a total mess.

What does this mean? You already have a unique identity as far as the government are concerned, and who would pay UBI if not the government.

To the best of my knowledge, the IRS has never scanned my eyeball, and yet I'm still able to send and receive money with them. I'm not getting the UBI angle at all. What part of UBI requires new technology?

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by tracker1 »

jabradoodle wrote: post #66
vvpan wrote: post #57

I know a lot of people will use this to say that blockchain bad, and that is up to you. But really biometrics collection has little to do with blockchain. Worldcoin is firstly a company that collects biometrics and secondly they decided to use an immutable ledger to record the data (although they claim that it is only hashes). That aside if I wanted to record a bunch of hashes for perpetuity blockchain would actually…

Blockchain would not be the right tech if you don't need decentralised trust. Write once media on a server is what you want.

Or even a signed hash against a confirmed/known/distributed public key.

Blockchain is only useful in a decentralized + adversarial context where there is a need to remove one-another's ability to game a given system. And even then, it doesn't imply a perfect security around it. Since it won't stop theft, breach, scams or other vectors.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by xiphias2 »

ks2048 wrote: post #72
Legend2440 wrote: post #36

I really don't want to have anything to do with crypto, and the fact that Sam Altman is pushing it in 2023 makes both him and OpenAI look sketchy. Especially crypto with a weird biometric eye scanner.

It is wild to me that Altman seems to really believe his company will have a God-On-Earth within the next decade and he still wants to put his name and time into some side hustle? I don't get it. (I think he or his supporters would say Worldcoin is something necessary for the future-AI world, but I don't buy it).

He put his name on worldcoin before OpenAI got so serious.

Now he can't really back out, and can't say bad about it anymore, but you bet he doesn't want any association with it anymore.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by redox99 »

boppo1 wrote: post #45
Legend2440 wrote: post #36

I really don't want to have anything to do with crypto, and the fact that Sam Altman is pushing it in 2023 makes both him and OpenAI look sketchy. Especially crypto with a weird biometric eye scanner.

Yeah, if I talk to a 'normie' and explain that chatGPT and OpenAI are nefariously plotting regulatory capture most will roll their eyes at me. If I say "The founder of OpenAI is scanning people's eyeballs to build a database" that sets off real alarm bells.

Pretty sad. They don't care about regulation that would potentially have a profound impact for everybody, but they care about people voluntarily doing something for a silly crypto token?

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by scrps »

boppo1 wrote: post #45
Legend2440 wrote: post #36

I really don't want to have anything to do with crypto, and the fact that Sam Altman is pushing it in 2023 makes both him and OpenAI look sketchy. Especially crypto with a weird biometric eye scanner.

Yeah, if I talk to a 'normie' and explain that chatGPT and OpenAI are nefariously plotting regulatory capture most will roll their eyes at me. If I say "The founder of OpenAI is scanning people's eyeballs to build a database" that sets off real alarm bells.

I would hope both would set off alarm bells but I guess at least one of them inducing trepidation is cause enough these days for guarded optimism.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by tracker1 »

humanizersequel wrote: post #81
jabradoodle wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blockchain would not be the right tech if you don't need decentralised trust. Write once media on a server is what you want.

>Write once media on a server is what you want How does that solve this problem: >[company will] go out of business and take down the servers with it

distributed public key, and a private-signed hash of the dataset.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by yunohn »

ethbr0 wrote: post #67
jabradoodle wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this mean? You already have a unique identity as far as the government are concerned, and who would pay UBI if not the government.

As with all crypto ideas, I believe this starts with "If we wanted to take government out of the picture..."

And replacing said government with a team of zero-moral tech bros like Sam Altman.

Not that I think any politicians/governments are doing a good job, but I’d rather not ”change” the system and end up in similar shit.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by monetus »

uLogMicheal wrote: post #11

This project builds a global identity database even if the crypto part disappears. Their tokenomics are a mess and their CEO openly admitted to market manipulation recently. Good on Kenya for shutting this down, I hope many more follow.

I've not been paying attention to altman - what did he say about market manipulation? Having trouble searching for it.

Re: Police raid Worldcoin warehouse in Nairobi

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Post by kayamon »

ramesh31 wrote: post #42

Taxation and control of the money supply is the single most powerful and fundamental right reserved by a government, and it's backed up by lots and lots of guns. Godspeed with changing that, crypto bros.

Do you solve all your problems by shooting people?
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