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Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by rowanG077 »

3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #28
rowanG077 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is an unseriousness person on twitter for sure. If you as a person take anything Musk says on twitter seriously you have greater problems. You shouldn't take anything on twitter seriously in fact. It's almost like the people who dislike him most are taking him the most serious. It's funny actually.

He paid $44 billion for a platform that's just for jokes, and nothing else, is this what you're saying? You're calling him an idiot, then. I distinctly remember him saying the future of the world and free speech depends on Twitter and what not. Is it just for the jokes? This is what we use free speech about, this is what democracy depends on? Fucking around with jokes? Why do autocratic regimes shut down Twitter in t…

I don't think buying twitter is unserious. He said he bought it so he can remove the insane left wing bias twitter has.

Regimes shut down twitter because it's another avenue of communication. Whether the general discourse on twitter is serious or not has nothing to do with that. A rebellion may as well use toy walkie talkies if they would be effective. That doesn't mean toy walkie talkies are a serious product. An unserious product can be used for serious purposes. That doesn't mean you should take that product or service to be, in general, serious.

> The only joke here... is you.

And here we are. A personal attack. You let yourself get so worked up about a dude who you don't know and probably will never interact with. Anyway this conversation is over. Please try to at least keep conversations civil.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

#32

Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

rowanG077 wrote: post #31
3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He paid $44 billion for a platform that's just for jokes, and nothing else, is this what you're saying? You're calling him an idiot, then. I distinctly remember him saying the future of the world and free speech depends on Twitter and what not. Is it just for the jokes? This is what we use free speech about, this is what democracy depends on? Fucking around with jokes? Why do autocratic regimes shut down Twitter in t…

I don't think buying twitter is unserious. He said he bought it so he can remove the insane left wing bias twitter has. Regimes shut down twitter because it's another avenue of communication. Whether the general discourse on twitter is serious or not has nothing to do with that. A rebellion may as well use toy walkie talkies if they would be effective. That doesn't mean toy walkie talkies are a serious product. An un…

I don't know you in person, but I'm reacting based on you going around and saying asinine things, which I've already discussed. And that's what the remark is about. Saying "you'll never interact with him" is especially absurd, as you're in the same boat. And no, I have interacted with him. He ruined a service I liked and used, and no longer do so.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

#33

Post by valianteffort »

clouddrover wrote: post #9
valianteffort wrote: post #4

Fighters need adequate time to train, and Zuck has been at it for a couple years now. Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prepare is a weak move. It's clear he isn't as confident as he should be. I expected this fight to take place by year end. That's more than enough time for Musk to whip himself into shape even at his age.

> Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prepare is a weak move. It is truly remarkable how people manage to get things so backwards. Musk was the one who issued the challenge. It was his idea. If Musk isn't ready for it then he shouldn't run around inviting people out for a fight. Musk is an attention seeking narcissist. The only weak moves here are Musk's lame antics.

Professional fighters issue challenges all the time, then they agree on a later date and take months to do their training camp. Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times, it's remarkable how little you know about fighting but still feel the need to comment.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by valianteffort »

3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #22
rowanG077 wrote: post #7

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Musk is way too smart to run into this fight without training. It's simply completely insane to expect this fight to happen with 3 weeks.

If someone tells you “I challenge you to a cage fight”, tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. “I challenge you” and then we wait two years or what? Do you realize this makes no damn sense. Also Musk issued the challenge in June. Not today. Despite Zuckerberg not issuing the challenge, he gave Musk over two months to get his shit together and he clearly can’t.

To take the GP comments fight as an example, there was 64 days between when Khabib v McGregor was announced and their actual bout. Both camps knew there would be a fight and so consider negotations started at least one month prior to that. So both trained fighters had at least 90 days to prepare.

Khabib however trains everyday, that is his life and he has done nothing else his whole life. Connor I'm not so sure but at a minimum he had the three months. These guys are elite, the best at their weight class, and they had three months.

People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight in their life thinking it takes a week to prepare for something.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by valianteffort »

3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #32
rowanG077 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think buying twitter is unserious. He said he bought it so he can remove the insane left wing bias twitter has. Regimes shut down twitter because it's another avenue of communication. Whether the general discourse on twitter is serious or not has nothing to do with that. A rebellion may as well use toy walkie talkies if they would be effective. That doesn't mean toy walkie talkies are a serious product. An un…

I don't know you in person, but I'm reacting based on you going around and saying asinine things, which I've already discussed. And that's what the remark is about. Saying "you'll never interact with him" is especially absurd, as you're in the same boat. And no, I have interacted with him. He ruined a service I liked and used, and no longer do so.

You're taking the internet way too seriously. Twitter is and always has been 4chan lite. If you can't understand it's value, it's probably part of the reason you don't see why someone would want to buy it.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by clouddrover »

valianteffort wrote: post #33
clouddrover wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prepare is a weak move. It is truly remarkable how people manage to get things so backwards. Musk was the one who issued the challenge. It was his idea. If Musk isn't ready for it then he shouldn't run around inviting people out for a fight. Musk is an attention seeking narcissist. The only weak moves here are Musk's lame antics.

Professional fighters issue challenges all the time, then they agree on a later date and take months to do their training camp. Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times, it's remarkable how little you know about fighting but still feel the need to comment.

> Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times

You contradicted yourself within two comments: "Khabib however trains everyday". And you seem to be missing the point that Zuckerberg is ready to go right now. Too bad that Musk is unable to live up to his own bluster.

Musk is a pointless brat. You're wasting your life defending him.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by clouddrover »

valianteffort wrote: post #35
3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know you in person, but I'm reacting based on you going around and saying asinine things, which I've already discussed. And that's what the remark is about. Saying "you'll never interact with him" is especially absurd, as you're in the same boat. And no, I have interacted with him. He ruined a service I liked and used, and no longer do so.

You're taking the internet way too seriously. Twitter is and always has been 4chan lite. If you can't understand it's value, it's probably part of the reason you don't see why someone would want to buy it.

Ah, nihilism. The pointless, dead-end philosophy of choice of the pseudo-intellectual.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by rowanG077 »

clouddrover wrote: post #37
valianteffort wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're taking the internet way too seriously. Twitter is and always has been 4chan lite. If you can't understand it's value, it's probably part of the reason you don't see why someone would want to buy it.

Ah, nihilism. The pointless, dead-end philosophy of choice of the pseudo-intellectual.

And how exactly is recognizing that twitter is a 4chan like cesspool nihilism?

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by mdwalters »

3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #20
LinuxBender wrote: post #5

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The 23rd is when South Korea will be texting 51 million people to get into the bunker nearest them as a test . A couple other countries will be doing other nuclear preparedness drills on that day. Maybe Elon and Mark are counting on that going sideways and derailing their plans. "Sorry folks called off fight due to the end of the cease fire"

Mark doesn't need to call anything off. He's participating in actual tournaments and winning against professionals. Meanwhile Musk is just a scammer who said something and is currently walking it back. He just tweeted he may need a back surgery BEFORE the fight. Nice he's leaving this literally for the last days before the fight. Very convincing.

Musk does have a long history of backing out of things. If Musk wanted to back out of a 42B deal, which he got sued for, he shouldn't have initiated the deal in the first place. Same goes for the cage match. He shouldn't have bluffed on someone that has more training than him. I assume the back surgery is an excuse to push the date back, or have it canceled.

Musk truly is the sqwawk of the town.

Re: Zuck says he gave Musk an August 26 fight date but he’s ‘not holding my breath’

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Post by defrost »

rowanG077 wrote: post #23
lilaa wrote: post #21

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Musk lied about his degree (sources: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1SZerKotu3YRHtuPyqeCa... ) He's a grifter and a narcissist who was very good at throwing money at the right companies and taking credit as 'founder'. I guess he is 'smart' in some sense, but not the kind he likes to pretend to be.

This is total misinformation. UPenn confirmed themselves he holds physics and economics degrees https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-t... It's just insane how Musk can spur such misinformation campaigns. It reminds me off the whole Obama birth certificate stuff. People are just not thinking right.

That's, ahh, a Bachelor of Arts Physics degree.

That comes from a broad liberal arts education and attending "Physics for non-physics people" lectures.

He's seen the Foucalt's Pendulum and heavy pendulum swinging at the head demonstrations but never had to get into the weeds with tensor calculations or most of the material B.Sc Physics grads would consider essential.

It's more physics than a History graduate would typically see, but less physics than, say, an Engineering graduate would be required to do.

It's technically a Physics degree, sure, but it's easy to see how many STEM people wouldn't regard that as an actual Physics degree.

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