I came directly to the comments to recommend Jitsi instead. Glad the author made the same early in the article.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
And I'm curious what Team's current terms are too.
If no one answers I'll ask internally (I'm in Microsoft but just an engineer and not in teams), I can tell you that in our org we don't have access to customer data, actual customer data is encrypted anyway and every access to a production machine is recorded, audited and has to be justified legally (and is very rare to the point I haven't _actually_ seen it done except to literally learn how to go through the proces…
I think it's going to lose them more customers than make them money... but we'll see.
MS is a more interesting case, because they have a tradition of understanding enterprise concerns, and don't really need the data from Teams given their product portfolio.
But, common strategic sense often doesn't stop tactical, myopic product manager blunders, so I am curious.
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#23As important as drawing the casus belli is laying out alternatives. What are the alternatives to Zoom, supporting Linux, OSX, mobile and Windows, with decent terms of use?
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#24As important as drawing the casus belli is laying out alternatives. What are the alternatives to Zoom, supporting Linux, OSX, mobile and Windows, with decent terms of use?
The page suggests using Jitsi instead ( https://meet.jit.si/ ), which is apparently open source and can be self-hosted. I've never used it, just pointing at what the page suggests.
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#26OK big question If Jitsi doesn't require a user account, how do they prevent a bunch of random bots using up all their resources with sybil attacks? How do they pay for all that bandwidth, for TURN servers etc? What are the economics of it basically
It probably does STUN but not TURN and relies on the actual data going through P2P, that's what most services that are free do and for a lot of orgs/cases it works pretty well.
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#27(Brave also didn't work but refreshing multiple times worked, don't know, why MS wants to pinpoint Edge or Chrome for Teams)
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#29As important as drawing the casus belli is laying out alternatives. What are the alternatives to Zoom, supporting Linux, OSX, mobile and Windows, with decent terms of use?
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#30Are meet’s terms any better?