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Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by NayamAmarshe »

dflock wrote: post #22
NayamAmarshe wrote: post #18

I wonder how things would have been if we had JavaScript based WMs and DEs. I'd have loved an HTML/CSS supported DE, imagine the possibilities! and seeing how performance of web-based DEs is amazing, I really hope we can get a Linux distro with a HTML/CSS/JS based DE.

The theming on Linux desktops is generally CSS based. For example, gtk/gnome shell is fully styled with CSS - with shell extensions written in JS.

but it's not as extensible. I know GTK uses JS and CSS but I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about something made purely in HTML + CSS + JS. Something like this: https://macos-web.app/

If only these could support native Linux apps somehow (through a WM).

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by herbst »

Takennickname wrote: post #27
hliyan wrote: post #12

I took a peek at the "Explorer" app code base. PHP + JS + jQuery, but surprisingly readable (but a lot of practices in there that are not exactly considered "best" today). Perhaps we have sunk too deep into the SPA/API rabbit hole that we can no longer appreciate simplicity. https://gitlab.com/hsleisink/orb/-/blob/master/public/apps/e... https://gitlab.com/hsleisink/orb/-/blob/master/public/apps/e...

We are, indeed, in a world where Jquery is now the preferable choice. Frontend development is going through what video games went through in the 80s, so much new shovelware every day that people are eventually going to get tired of it.

I agree. There is no bandwidth wasted when using a popular CDN just drop it in and enjoy the simplicity it still ads to the already nice as well JavaScript methods.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by Propelloni »

teddyh wrote: post #14
oaiey wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally hate this from Synology. While their apps are meaningful structured and look good, it is just a natural mismatch to put sub windows into a parent window. Anyone remembering multi sub window apps in the Microsoft office suite in the 90s/00s. Was also horrible without a browser/html involved. This is definitely a taste thing

> Anyone remembering multi sub window apps in the Microsoft office suite in the 90s/00s It was called MDI: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Multiple-document... >

Yes, and from day one Opera (when it was still called Multitorg) used it to give us something like "tabbed browsing". I think that was in the mid-1990s ;)

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by reportgunner »

sneak wrote: post #16
ale42 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything that runs inside this "desktop" environment is made for it. So it is definitely not competing with Citrix & co. which are made to run existing stuff under existing operating systems...

well, given that everything is made for the web, it seems like it would be pretty straightforward to jam most existing SPA webapps into something like this.

Yo dawg I heard you like web apps.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by arghwhat »

Takennickname wrote: post #27
hliyan wrote: post #12

I took a peek at the "Explorer" app code base. PHP + JS + jQuery, but surprisingly readable (but a lot of practices in there that are not exactly considered "best" today). Perhaps we have sunk too deep into the SPA/API rabbit hole that we can no longer appreciate simplicity. https://gitlab.com/hsleisink/orb/-/blob/master/public/apps/e... https://gitlab.com/hsleisink/orb/-/blob/master/public/apps/e...

We are, indeed, in a world where Jquery is now the preferable choice. Frontend development is going through what video games went through in the 80s, so much new shovelware every day that people are eventually going to get tired of it.

Whether or not there is shovelware in frontend development is irrelevant: jQuery provides little to nothing over regular vanilla JS nowadays.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by jdsleppy »

herbst wrote: post #32
Takennickname wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are, indeed, in a world where Jquery is now the preferable choice. Frontend development is going through what video games went through in the 80s, so much new shovelware every day that people are eventually going to get tired of it.

I agree. There is no bandwidth wasted when using a popular CDN just drop it in and enjoy the simplicity it still ads to the already nice as well JavaScript methods.

It's fine if you don't want to call it a waste of bandwidth, but bandwidth is definitely still used because browsers don't share caches between domains https://www.stefanjudis.com/notes/say-goodbye-to-resource-ca....
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