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Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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It's even worse for us cyclists. Regularly tries to kill me in the routes it picks.

Try https://cycle.travel/ for cycle routes. I find it much better at finding quieter routes.

I also like https://brouter.damsy.net/latest/

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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I worked on Google Maps monetization, and then on Maps itself. Monetization was a dismal failure. I don't know how well they're doing now, but Maps was a gigantic money-loser, forever. I'd be a little surprised if it didn't still lose money, but maybe less. I don't what those "pin ads" cost, but I'd bet it's way less than a search ad. If you don't believe that, that's fine. "What about indirect revenue?" you ask? Goo…

I assume people on the Google Maps team use Google Maps in their daily lives. Do they not feel the UX friction from all the ad-centric design?

All the VPs and directors use iPhones.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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Google Maps has its pitfalls, but it's by far the most up to date in the cities I've used it. OSM lacks a lot of details that completely change how you'd move from point A to point B (I was missing overpass bridges and crossable paths in residential neighboorhoods), and point to point navigation is also not great. Then it completely lacks all the more commercial features Google has built on top of Maps (store details…

For countryside locations and topographic, OTOH, Google Maps (and Apple Maps) is a joke compared to OSM, though, at least in Europe.

Depends on what you are looking for and what country you are in. When it comes to small 'unofficial' roads, bike paths and hiking trails then OSM is much better. When it comes to finding the location of rural buildings, addresses and companies I find Google Maps much much better and complete, at least here in Sweden.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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I worked on Google Maps monetization, and then on Maps itself. Monetization was a dismal failure. I don't know how well they're doing now, but Maps was a gigantic money-loser, forever. I'd be a little surprised if it didn't still lose money, but maybe less. I don't what those "pin ads" cost, but I'd bet it's way less than a search ad. If you don't believe that, that's fine. "What about indirect revenue?" you ask? Goo…

Peole forget that millions of people submit data to Google Maps for free. I placed all the local postboxes on google maps, people sibmit information about their businesss, opening hours, etc. This is hugely valuable. Also google grew laxy. Not tskes them a year to add a royal mail postbox

Agreed. And not just that, but also the fact that people use Google Maps for car navigation means Google can derive the location of traffic jams by comparing current speed with the speed limit.

This is hugely useful for navigation since it means these bottlenecks can be avoided, some thing which is not possible unless this data is available.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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post #107

Trying out Organic Maps, I noticed two big things: 1. Man, this UI is so much faster than Google Maps. 2. Man, this has trouble finding addresses. Hopefully they improve with time. On my older laptop at home, Google Maps is horribly sluggish compared to just about any other map product.

> 2. Man, this has trouble finding addresses.

If you are or someone else is interested one can:

- add addresses to OpenStreetMap if missing (highly welcome!)

- report search problems to https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues

- or even submit fixes if they want

- wait till someone else will do any of above (to be clear, that is also OK to do this - noone is obligated to volunteer for above)

- I guess you can also donate to Organic Maps and/or OpenStreetMap Foundation but impact will be less direct

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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post #295

I strongly recommend MAPS.ME as a great alternative to Google Maps. It comes with offline navigation and it's less cluttered than Gmaps. not sure if it's built around Gmaps API, I don't know much about that but it's nice to use. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mapswithme...

Organic Maps is a fork of Maps.me from before they started to make it worse.

https://organicmaps.app/

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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post #46

Eyesore issues are an aside to the reckless behavior of GMaps' navigation. I don't want to always take a one lane back-country road to save maybe 5 minutes of my life - and if there's no suggested alternative route at the onset there's not really an easy way to compare the times between usual("fastest") and "safest" routes.

Also that 'feature' where it suddenly wants to completely change my route to 'a faster route' unless I interact with the UI in a time pressure WHILE I'M DRIVING or on a motorcycle. And that's the default setting!!! Who thought that was OK?

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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post #145

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I’d like to see a defence of the reason why it’s so often a bit of a job to be able to read the street name… on a map. If only for the laugh I would have.

The article complains about 'clutter' - but have you seen a traditional printed map like [1] ? Personally I find them beautiful, but it's a rather Jackson-Pollock-esque beauty. One of the changes brought about by the digital mapping revolution was to allow much less visually complex maps. [1] https://blog.az.co.uk/z-map-company-supplies-london-emergenc...

That's a bit offputting at a glance but I was quickly confident I could find the street name of any street I was in within a second.

Re: Google Maps has become an eyesore

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> Why won't you show me the street name? I've been running into this a lot lately. No matter how much I zoom -- no street name. This is Mapping 101.

>> Why won't you show me the street name?

>I've been running into this a lot lately. No matter how much I zoom -- no street name. This is Mapping 101.

Google Maps does this all over Belgium, showing hotels and restaurants and shops and never the street name. Very frustrating indeed.

I use OSM for street names, because it just works.

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