Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by cs702 » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 1:17 PM UTC

Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing
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Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by trotsky » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 1:38 PM UTC

Check out the source: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all

Specifically, Mark fails to mention that Centos is listed separately from RHEL in the survey, and when added together they come to 41%, more than twice that of Ubuntu.

I'm a Canonical fan, I'm typing this on 12.04 right now, but that seems a bit misleading.

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by cs702 » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 1:46 PM UTC

trotsky wrote: post #2

Check out the source: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Specifically, Mark fails to mention that Centos is listed separately from RHEL in the survey, and when added together they come to 41%, more than twice that of Ubuntu. I'm a Canonical fan, I'm typing this on 12.04 right now, but that seems a bit misleading.

I don't find the post misleading at all: it points to a meaningful shift in OS adoption. See Mark's response here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1072#comment-394295

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by jbeatty » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 1:59 PM UTC

trotsky wrote: post #2

Check out the source: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Specifically, Mark fails to mention that Centos is listed separately from RHEL in the survey, and when added together they come to 41%, more than twice that of Ubuntu. I'm a Canonical fan, I'm typing this on 12.04 right now, but that seems a bit misleading.

On the other hand, the Debian ecosystem (of which Ubuntu is primary beneficiary, even though not the primary contributor) is probably about the same size.

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by rdtsc » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 2:01 PM UTC

We would love to sell and use Ubuntu based systems to the military and some enterprise but unfortunately there is a slew of certificates that RHEL systems have that Ubuntu don't. Like FIPS 140-2 etc.

http://www.redhat.com/solutions/industry/government/certific...

Ubuntu is just not on many of those lists. It costs quite a bit of money and effort to get some of them.

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by rplnt » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 2:01 PM UTC

jbeatty wrote: post #4

trotsky wrote: post #2

Check out the source: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Specifically, Mark fails to mention that Centos is listed separately from RHEL in the survey, and when added together they come to 41%, more than twice that of Ubuntu. I'm a Canonical fan, I'm typing this on 12.04 right now, but that seems a bit misleading.

On the other hand, the Debian ecosystem (of which Ubuntu is primary beneficiary, even though not the primary contributor) is probably about the same size.

As far as I know CentOS is identical to RHEL. Only branding is removed and repositories changed.

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by trotsky » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 2:02 PM UTC

cs702 wrote: post #3

trotsky wrote: post #2

Check out the source: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Specifically, Mark fails to mention that Centos is listed separately from RHEL in the survey, and when added together they come to 41%, more than twice that of Ubuntu. I'm a Canonical fan, I'm typing this on 12.04 right now, but that seems a bit misleading.

I don't find the post misleading at all: it points to a meaningful shift in OS adoption. See Mark's response here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1072#comment-394295

Debian and ubuntu are clearly two substantially different distributions with different packages, policies and goals. As are RHEL and Fedora. The only difference between Centos and RHEL is some branding and whether you paid a license fee.

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by rplnt » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 2:03 PM UTC

Here's how the stats were created: http://w3techs.com/technologies

Although interesting, not really covering much of an "enterprise computing".

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by agwa » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 2:04 PM UTC

cs702 wrote: post #3

trotsky wrote: post #2

Check out the source: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Specifically, Mark fails to mention that Centos is listed separately from RHEL in the survey, and when added together they come to 41%, more than twice that of Ubuntu. I'm a Canonical fan, I'm typing this on 12.04 right now, but that seems a bit misleading.

I don't find the post misleading at all: it points to a meaningful shift in OS adoption. See Mark's response here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1072#comment-394295

Mark's response is kind of bogus: it's true that Fedora shouldn't be lumped with RHEL unless you lump Debian with Ubuntu, but you can't say this for CentOS. It's literally RHEL with all the branding removed (and no support from RedHat).

However, the graph does point to a decline in the willingness to pay lots of money for a server Linux distro, which is an interesting trend.

Re: Ubuntu vs RHEL in enterprise computing

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Post by cs702 » Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 2:04 PM UTC

rdtsc wrote: post #5

We would love to sell and use Ubuntu based systems to the military and some enterprise but unfortunately there is a slew of certificates that RHEL systems have that Ubuntu don't. Like FIPS 140-2 etc. http://www.redhat.com/solutions/industry/government/certific... Ubuntu is just not on many of those lists. It costs quite a bit of money and effort to get some of them.

Send an email to Mark Shuttleworth as instructed here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1056

Or post a comment. Mark will likely respond personally (he usually does on his blog).